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by chabouk
Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:44 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: sherman chl incident
Replies: 44
Views: 7151

Re: sherman chl incident

wheelgun1958 wrote:
cowboymd wrote:
TLynnHughes wrote:Could have been a Taurus, I suppose. There's allegedly a safety issue with certain models when they're dropped. Mine is still currently my daily carry, however.

http://www.texaschlforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=29054

T.
It was a North American Arms 22 revolver. :tiphat:
Don't those things have an off-chamber notch?

"The North American Arms Safety Cylinder feature allows the gun to be carried fully loaded. There are halfway notches located between the chambers. The hammer is lowered into one of these notches after the gun is loaded. When the hammer is pulled back to the firing position the cylinder rotates to the next chamber."

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http://www.naaminis.com/naasafe.html

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Yes, they do have those halfway notches, for the very simple reason that the NAA Mini is not drop-safe!

If he had an older Mini without the notches, or if he was carrying it with the hammer resting on the cylinder instead of in the halfway notch, then there's your answer: he dropped a gun that will fire when dropped on the muzzle or hammer.
by chabouk
Sat Dec 19, 2009 12:41 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: sherman chl incident
Replies: 44
Views: 7151

Re: sherman chl incident

chartreuse wrote:Well, I was kind of kidding, as I don't think there's much chance of it ever coming to court, but the trigger thing was the point of the joke. The law mentions a single actuation of the trigger, but says nothing about hammers or slides. And, as you say, by working them you're able to fire multiple rounds with only a single pull of the trigger...
Remember, we're dealing with ATF-speak, and in their view the "trigger" is not always the thing inside the trigger guard. It's whatever you do to make it go "bang".

So, when closing the slide on a pump .22, or fanning a Peacemaker, the slide or the hammer becomes the actual trigger.

Don't look for it to make consistent sense, it's the government.
by chabouk
Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:20 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: sherman chl incident
Replies: 44
Views: 7151

Re: sherman chl incident

chartreuse wrote:
cowboymd wrote:
TLynnHughes wrote:Could have been a Taurus, I suppose. There's allegedly a safety issue with certain models when they're dropped. Mine is still currently my daily carry, however.

http://www.texaschlforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=29054

T.
It was a North American Arms 22 revolver. :tiphat:
That sounds plausible. I do know that you can fire those by holding down the trigger and working the hammer.

Which, technically, means you could call them Class 3, if you wanted... ;-)
Nope, because they require a distinct mechanical operation for every shot. My 1906 Winchester pump .22 doesn't have a disconnect, so if you hold the trigger back you can empty it as fast as you can pump the slide. (That's pretty darn fast, by the way.)

Using a "Hellfire" or other crank device on a semi-auto is legal because each shot still requires one actuation of the trigger,

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