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by randomoutburst
Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:18 am
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: In The Wee Hours of the Morning
Replies: 45
Views: 7378

Re: In The Wee Hours of the Morning

quidni wrote:Just tell him, "All guns have at least two safeties. One's digital, one's cognitive. In other words - keep the digit off the trigger until ready to fire, and THINK. Some guns also have mechanical safeties on top of those. But if the first two don't work, the mechanical ones aren't guaranteed."
:iagree: :clapping:
Yes, that would definitely make him pause. ;)
I think he was particularly worried about the gun accidentally discharging while carrying in a holster. Which I explained typically doesn't happen and why. I understand his worry; when you aren't raised around guns, they seem like machines with minds of their own that could go off at any time. It takes some training and common sense to realize that they ARE machines...and as such, are controlled by our own actions.
by randomoutburst
Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:37 pm
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: In The Wee Hours of the Morning
Replies: 45
Views: 7378

Re: In The Wee Hours of the Morning

Yes, a friend of mine was absolutely shocked that neither of my handguns have safeties.
I was like, "Well, a revolver doesn't HAVE safeties. And my pistol is meant for concealed carry, it's incredibly small for the caliber size (9mm) and it really doesn't bother me because I practice common sense."
I do sometimes wish my hands were larger as it would open up many more options for me as far as handguns go. The smallest J-frame revolver still presents a problem in reaching the trigger, but I've found several semi-autos that work. In any case, (and I'm quoting someone but can't remember who) the best safety is between the shooter's ears.
A good holster covering the trigger is a good idea, too. ;)
by randomoutburst
Sun Oct 11, 2009 1:23 am
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: In The Wee Hours of the Morning
Replies: 45
Views: 7378

Re: In The Wee Hours of the Morning

dihappy wrote:
How else am I supposed to make my Blackhawk work?

Guess I'd better have the safety on my 1911 pinned up, too.
I knew id get some of the, "im too perfect to ever have an accident" members to chime in.

Walking around with the hammer cocked wasnt even my concern.

You start pulling the hammer back, or letting it down enough times, its only a matter of time before it slips out your finger.

But thats ok, i know it cant possibley ever happen if your "careful".
I think what he was pointing out was that some guns MUST be cocked in order to fire.
No need to be catty about it (from either side of course), but I must say that I still do not think there is anything wrong with cocking a firearm in preparation for fire. When de-cocking, if you're worried about your finger slipping, look in the S&W owner's manual where it suggests keeping your non-dominant hand's thumb between the hammer and firing pin as you use your other thumb and forefinger to release the hammer. As for the actual cocking and letting a finger slip...that's just up to the shooter to ensure a firm grip. Accidents do happen and I'm not suggesting that if procedure is properly followed that everything goes according to plan, but I am suggesting that perhaps it's a little much to say you should never cock a firearm because of a small risk inherent with any gun - accidental discharge of small lethal projectiles.
by randomoutburst
Sat Oct 10, 2009 2:35 am
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: In The Wee Hours of the Morning
Replies: 45
Views: 7378

Re: In The Wee Hours of the Morning

Our situation could easily have ended up like this --> http://tinyurl.com/ylous7y

I'm glad it didn't and I'm glad I had enough sense to consider that the "intruder" could be my husband. And glad that I wasn't pointing the gun at the door.
My safety is important to me - knowing now what I didn't know on Sunday morning I would still have done the same thing. It's scary to think I could have shot my husband, but then I remember that because I was half-asleep I was running on instinct and common sense. I think my brain has a good idea of what's considered suspicious or dangerous and can work a lot faster on the "common sense" level than the "higher level" cognitive thinking when it comes to a fight or flight response. My experience was a good lesson in gun safety, common sense, and identifying the target FIRST...and my hubby learned that he needs to be louder when he comes home. I'm glad we didn't learn the hard way like the poor man in the news story did. :???:
by randomoutburst
Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:11 am
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: In The Wee Hours of the Morning
Replies: 45
Views: 7378

Re: In The Wee Hours of the Morning

Oh, no, I know the comments were in jest. Joshing someone is typically friendly, even online. ;-)
I'm aware that being naked is quite a hindrance if one needs to chase an intruder out of one's home. In any case, I always have a robe hanging on the back of the bathroom door that I could throw on if need be.

Finally got to go to the range today to shoot my revolver. The Monarch .357 I bought just for shooting seemed much rougher than the Remington Golden Saber .357 that I keep in my revolver when at home. I also seemed much more accurate with .357 than .38 when shooting both my and my husband's revolvers. I think I outshot my husband with his, but he definitely outshot me with mine. :lol:
by randomoutburst
Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:26 am
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: In The Wee Hours of the Morning
Replies: 45
Views: 7378

Re: In The Wee Hours of the Morning

KC5AV wrote:
randomoutburst wrote: There's a nice little curved bullet path about 2 inches long under the carpet that isn't too noticeable now and a never-ending "what-if" that keep us pointing our guns to the sky.
So much for that security deposit... :shock:
Unless you know where it is, you can't find it. :)
edmart001 wrote: As far as the tactical situation goes, I'd say you acted responsibly and having good communication methods worked out in advance is what's required. Every situation provides a learning opportunity and a chance to improve.
Thanks for your story about your wife and daughter. Hoping things work out eventually with my mom. ;-)
Yes, I think having talked about different scenarios before this happened definitely had influence over my actions - especially since I was half-asleep through most of it.
by randomoutburst
Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:26 am
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: In The Wee Hours of the Morning
Replies: 45
Views: 7378

Re: In The Wee Hours of the Morning

USA1 wrote:give it time . you're still young .
my father in law literally tried to kill me when i married his teenage daughter against his wishes .
fast forward 25 years he loves me like his own son .
See, that's the crazy thing. She loved him while we were dating. Was angry that I moved in with him but got over it. Has gone shooting with us, we used to have her over for dinner often, etc. She is just all of the sudden convinced that he's "isolating me from my friends" and "keeping me at home" because he's "abusive and controlling".I think she's putting my father's characteristics on to my husband because she's upset that I'm not available to spend as much time with her now that I don't live with her. It wouldn't bother me so much if she wasn't spreading these lies to family andfriends... :grumble
by randomoutburst
Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:04 am
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: In The Wee Hours of the Morning
Replies: 45
Views: 7378

Re: In The Wee Hours of the Morning

wford wrote:Thanks random for the trigger discipline clarification. Now you got me thinking about that muzzle, haha.
I wonder if "low ready" is the most common positon taught for that situation and if there is a name for
what you were using.
I would say it's fairly common; I would have had it low ready, but since I live above another family I don't like to point the barrel anywhere but up. We had a friend make a negligent discharge in our apartment last year while aimed at the floor. The apartment below us was vacant at the time, and the bullet didn't penetrate all the way through the floor....but only because it hit a nail and ricocheted back up and into our couch. There's a nice little curved bullet path about 2 inches long under the carpet that isn't too noticeable now and a never-ending "what-if" that keep us pointing our guns to the sky.
USA1 wrote:
randomoutburst wrote:
Hubby now wants to reinforce the bedroom door
is that to keep the bad guys out , or keep you in ? :eek6 :smilelol5:
Well if you were my mother, you'd be screaming the latter. She's not too fond of hubby. :roll:
by randomoutburst
Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:25 pm
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: In The Wee Hours of the Morning
Replies: 45
Views: 7378

Re: In The Wee Hours of the Morning

USA1 wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:
TTUchris wrote:
randomoutburst wrote:Imagine at this point a buck naked woman crouched beside a dresser
Done. :drool:

;-)
I wasn't going to go there. No I wasn't. I'm still not gonna. Nope. Not gonna do it. :shock:
me neither :cool:
Well, I was going to just ignore it, but whatever... :roll:

Hubby now wants to reinforce the bedroom door with five metal bars that I can put in place before I go to bed and remove in the morning. :smilelol5:
I keep having to remind him that we are renting and I don't want to lose the deposit because of some large nasty holes in the wall.
by randomoutburst
Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:51 pm
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: In The Wee Hours of the Morning
Replies: 45
Views: 7378

Re: In The Wee Hours of the Morning

wford wrote:Not to hound you to death but you seem to imply that you keep your finger in the trigger guard if your gun is not cocked.
Or am I just reading you incorrectly ?
Haha no, you're correct. I seemed to imply that I ONLY keep my finger out of the trigger guard if it's cocked. :banghead:
What I should have said is, "As always, my finger never enters the trigger guard until I have identified my target and have made the decision to fire upon the target, whether my hammer is cocked or not."
Also, before it's brought up, I keep my gun pointed upwards whenever I am holding it in my apartment, and when it is set down it is not facing my neighbors or other rooms of my own apartment. :biggrinjester:
Better?
by randomoutburst
Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:49 pm
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: In The Wee Hours of the Morning
Replies: 45
Views: 7378

Re: In The Wee Hours of the Morning

joe817 wrote:randomoutburst, dont' take this the wrong way(because I know exactly what you're saying), but I suggest that the gun you have may be to large for your hands. I have smallish hands myself and finding a gun that fits you perfectly makes all the difference in the world not only in your accuracy but also your confidence.

One of the ladies on the forum posted a fantastic website called the "Cornered Cat" with the best article I've ever seen on choosing a gun that fits your hand:

http://www.corneredcat.com/FirstGun/tryongun.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Give that a good looky, and then check out the entire website. It's well written.
I found that website last year and love it.
As I mentioned in the same previous post I was referring to last time...NO revolver I have tried properly fits my hand. I have a Kel-Tec PF9 that fits perfectly, but I wanted a revolver for carry as I see them as more dependable. The smallest J-frame available still requires my finger to be another 1/4" longer (if that). That's fine, I'll probably have someone adjust the trigger if it really bothers me, but as of now I shoot very accurately with it even in double action - it just hurts my wrist after shooting a long time at the range.
by randomoutburst
Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:19 am
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: In The Wee Hours of the Morning
Replies: 45
Views: 7378

Re: In The Wee Hours of the Morning

dihappy wrote:Glad your ok.

Id like to suggest you never pull back the hammer to cock your revolver.

You are that much closer to a negligent discharge.
Personally, I see nothing wrong with cocking the hammer as long as I'm mindful of my body (especially trigger finger) and surroundings.
1. When my hammer is cocked I don't keep my finger in the trigger guard.
2. I live on the second story of an apartment building so I keep the gun pointing upwards while the hammer is cocked.
3. As I mentioned in a previous post, my finger can't reach the trigger in double-action unless I scooch my hand around. I simply cocked it this time in case I needed to make a quick shot.

Obviously I don't carry it around cocked. In fact, this was the only instance when I've put it into single action in anticipation of making a shot (excluding range time, of course).
by randomoutburst
Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:58 pm
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: In The Wee Hours of the Morning
Replies: 45
Views: 7378

Re: In The Wee Hours of the Morning

wford wrote:Glad all was well. Were you trained to cock your revolver in that type of situation ?
No, it is simply easier for me to shoot single-action. My trigger finger falls just slightly short of being able to reach where it needs to on every single gun I've tried. Well, with proper grip anyway. If I scooch my hand around just a little on my revolver I can fire double-action just fine. Of course, when at the range this takes a toll on my wrist but in a self-defense situation I'd be just fine. I cocked it simply because I could, I had time to do so, and I figured it would make for a quick first shot should I need to fire.

Also, when I mentioned that I hadn't shot my gun at the range yet...that is true but I should mention that I tested the same model so I know (and like) how it fires. In fact, I got my revolver because I liked my test fire so much! I got it a couple weeks ago and am planning to go to the range this week now that I have time between work and school. Plus I want to fire some .357 because until now I've only tried the .38 specials. My gun was loaded with .357 this morning and I remember thinking, "Crud. This is not how I wanted to test fire these..." :roll:
by randomoutburst
Sun Oct 04, 2009 6:23 pm
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: In The Wee Hours of the Morning
Replies: 45
Views: 7378

In The Wee Hours of the Morning

My husband works a night shift as a dispatcher, so 7 out of 14 nights he isn't home at night but I am. He is purposely quite loud when he enters our apartment in the morning, talking on the phone or getting something to eat. I also usually wake up when his key hits the lock, before he ever sets foot inside.
Last night I got off work very late and my head hit the pillow around 3:30 a.m. I was out almost immediately. When I woke up, it seemed very dark -- I figured I hadn't slept very long and wondered what woke me. Then I heard the shuffling of feet and sound of some bags I had left in the living room being moved around. I bristled and grabbed my revolver. I was thinking, "I haven't even gotten a chance to shoot the thing at the range and I'm about to have to use it." I was angry that someone was in my apartment who shouldn't be, and I prepared to shoot anyone who came through the bedroom door.
I quietly slid out of bed and moved beside the dresser to give myself cover. I cocked the hammer and kept the barrel pointing upwards just in case I was startled and accidentally shot the gun. The feet continued shuffling around the living room and down the hallway. Then I heard a door open. Muffled noises issued forth from the laundry room while my still-groggy brain struggled to make sense of this. I argued that it couldn't be my husband because it was too dark, too early for him to be home and the intruder seemed to be making it a priority to keep quiet. But what would an intruder want in the laundry room? I wanted to check the time just to get a bearing on if anyone should even be in the apartment, but my phone was across the room and I didn't want to risk losing a safe position just to check the time when I figured I'd know very soon who was in the apartment. The footsteps left the laundry room and began moving quite quickly towards the bedroom.
Imagine at this point a buck naked woman crouched beside a dresser, holding a revolver, ready to blow the the heck out of the person about to walk through the door. On the other side of the door, a freshly-disrobed husband eager to join his wife in bed is tottering like a child towards the door, ready to leap into bed the moment he opens the door.
Poor guy. He threw open the door, saw movement out of his right eye, then jumped back and yelped as he recognized the movement as his wife holding a gun.
Lucky for him, I was waiting to aim the gun until I had assessed the threat. As he entered the room and I recognized the "threat" as my husband, I left out a huge sigh of relief and stood up as I decocked my revolver.
After my brain processed the fact that there was no real threat I suddenly realized how awake I was, how hard my heart was pounding, and how hard it was to breathe. Nausea came quickly after. That adrenaline rush was like nothing I've ever felt, but I'm glad the first time it happened was a false alarm.
Since I have never been in a position of defending my home and life, I didn't know what to expect from myself in regards of my thoughts and actions. My husband and I were both pleased to learn that I became angry in the face of a threat and was more than prepared to eliminate the threat to protect myself. Granted, we didn't learn that in the most ideal manner...but it was a lot better to learn it now than in a time of real danger.
Hubby promises to be louder when he comes home in the morning.
In retrospect, if I ever have a doubt about if the person outside the bedroom is my husband or an intruder I'll probably grab and cock my shotgun. Anything other than a tentative, "...honey?" probably means trouble. ;)

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