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anomie wrote:
That said - I remember a few years ago a story about a guy in Arizona who was acquitted?/had charges dropped? when a law enforcement agency had raided his house and did not properly identify themselves (I don't remember off the top of my head if he was shooting at them, or actually shot them - but it was something terrible like that. Don't entirely remember all the specifics).

Failure to properly identify ... and even properly identifying in a situation where someone may not hear it ... just seems like a bad scene overall, for everybody. (don't know if one of those two happened here, but I could see both sides of the story being true - a female officer identifying, the girls in the car either not seeing it or not believing it). It seems much safer in a situation like this to have a uniform around to make the initial contact. Maybe they'll change to that, after this.

It was a drug bust on an Arizona family home with children inside at 6 in the morning, if I remember correctly. The former Iraqi vet had worked the night shift and had only been asleep for 30 min when his wife woke him and told him men were looking in the windows. He told her to get in the closet with the children and call 911, he grabbed his AR 15 and peered around the bedroom door when the front door was broken down. I think he received over 80 wounds from rifle fire from the police. I don't think he fired his weapon, but may have pointed it in the direction of his front door. He died after suffering a while without treatment. The wife was not aware it was the police, certainly the husband did not know.

The search warrant yielded a picture of some sort of Saint of the Narcos. That was all. If I remember 20 or so SWAT officers conducted the raid.

I'll have to see what has happened since then. Never made the news outside of Arizona.

I'm blaming all of this on MADD, and too large a budget. To me this is exactly what the framers of the constitution wanted to avoid.

If I remember correctly from the stories my son told from college, MIP was done on campus by students hired just for that purpose. They were unarmed and wearing street clothes as they were just students. They would show up unannounced at a frat or sorority parties and start checking id's.

The goal of every chapter however, was to get booze to pledges as that was the mark of a good chapter.

College girls, I think I read (correct me if I am wrong) they had just left a school function about how to avoid rape.

This could have been much worse. The girls tried to escape in their car. The original charges were for "brushing the officers with their car". At least their boss is not discussing with them the killing of the driver and her passenger.

I'm heading to Charlottesville in a couple of weeks I'll find out the rest of the story.