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I was in Dallas. The wife loves outlet malls. We went to the one in Allen where this tragedy occurred. The mall is packed, every parking space is taken.

RIP to those who were murdered for no reason what so ever.

Thank you Lord for the hero officer who ran towards danger and saved so many.

Paladin wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 2:06 pm

03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Mon May 15, 2023 3:17 pm

eyedoc wrote: ↑Mon May 15, 2023 11:28 am

Grayling813 wrote: ↑Tue May 09, 2023 3:27 pm

Rafe wrote: ↑Tue May 09, 2023 2:45 pm

Paladin wrote: ↑Tue May 09, 2023 12:27 pm Generally you want to stop the bleeding first. People can die from spurting arterial bleeds quicker than not breathing. Opening the airway is a good thing and if they don't breath on their own CPR might help, but it wouldn't be my first step.

Yeah. Manual chest-compression CPR ain't exactly the first thing you'd go to if someone has a sucking chest wound. Or, "Officer, the victim was clearly bleeding out from a femoral artery wound so I immediately started CPR."

Please never let Steven Spainhouer be anywhere near me if I get shot... And Spainhouer has been constantly and incessantly tweeting and posting about it since it happened. In fact, he's changed his Twitter profile to quote a tweet he launched yesterday about the event. And he's giving interviews anywhere and everywhere. You read his spiel, and it sounds like he personally laid hands on and tried to save every single individual who had been shot or even just fell down and sprained an ankle.

Sounds very much to me like a smarmy small-time politician who is doing everything in his power to maximize his 15 minutes of fame on the back of a tragedy.

Wonder if Mr. Spainhouer has any training in trauma first aid or tactical combat casualty care?

He is only your typical liberal lying to push his agenda. He was not there doing what he said he did.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/witness-who- ... ons-police

The Allen Police Department said Spainhouer's public comments caused them to conduct a second interview with him, after which they revealed he had given several incorrect statements.

"Mr. Spainhouer arrived between 3:44 and 3:52 p.m. and was not first on the scene, nor was he on the property while gunfire was occurring," the department said, adding that Spainhouer "did not perform Cardiopulmonary Resuscitation (CPR) or administer first aid" and "did not move a deceased mother who was covering a live child."

"As inaccurate reports can be prevalent in such situations, it is essential to confirm information before sharing it," the department said. "Please take note of this to prevent unintentional spreading of misinformation."

If he made those claims in a first interview with the police, it seems he has broken the law by giving false statements to the police. Charges should be brought against him. I am not saying to throw him in jail, maybe probation or a fine. But then he can spend the rest of his days with his lies as his official record.

Agreed.

Per the timeline the shooting started at 3:36pm and ended at 3:40pm

I suggest Spainhouer should be thoroughly questioned by law enforcement to determine what he knew and when he knew it. What was he doing before the attack? If this was an organized attack, Spainhouer was on site remarkably quickly after the shooting started. Was he waiting for the shooting to stop to move into position? Terrorists use the media to magnify the terror and Spainhouer may have had a formal role as a media disinfo agent. Honestly he sounds like a good lead as far as showing this was an organized attack.

With the body armor, how he left the car for a quick get away, I suspect the terrorist was not planning on committing suicide with this event. It was only by accident that a brave and heroic police office with excellent marksmanship was at the scene when he started shooting.

Not to be a conspiracy theorist, but this could have easily been an attack hatched on the internet, with multiple persons involved, including crisis actors, like this Spainhouer individual.

carlson1 wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 11:13 pm

philip964 wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 6:20 pm
Does anyone know if the security guard who was shot and killed was armed? Will they ever tell us?

My guess would be no since he was only 20 years. I don’t know much about armed security, but I would think you had to be at least 21. Very sad.

Poor kid. Poor kids parents. Being put in a soldiers uniform and sent into battle without a gun.

03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 5:31 pm I am seeing many posts from folks who don't sound familiar at all what this "mall" is. I might suggest one try this link to google maps to get a better idea of the layout of this mall and ask yourself where one might find a plaque, sign or any other notice of a gun buster sign. Keep in mind that this is a very large and highly trafficked area of a very bustling and busy city. I would love for anyone to tell me exactly where this "sign" would be located. I live close enough to happily search it out. I sincerely want to know where it is located because I am not believing there is one. There are no less than 10 entrances to this mall, all off of VERY VERY busy multilane roads. You are lucky if you can get into this place without being hit by another car. If they have any signs at any of these entrances, it would be next to impossible to even notice them, much less hang out and read the fine details of the rules.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Allen ... %2F03l_x8f

Went there once maybe a year ago. So big I parked near one store I wanted to go to, then moved the car to go to the other store. It is really a large shopping area. If they have signs, they are at each individual store entrance. I was probably there on a Sunday afternoon and it was a zoo.

Not a place you would suspect anything like this would happen.

Does anyone know if the security guard who was shot and killed was armed? Will they ever tell us?

C-dub wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 2:41 pm I'm just a Medical Technologist and there are far more qualified folks here to comment further or correct me, but AFAIK performing CPR on someone with a heartbeat is not good and only makes things worse.

Somebody did CPR on someone with a heartbeat? Geez.

Please get some training!

And I haven’t even stayed at that hotel that makes you smart.

The mass shooters in their insanity are using better tactics. This is the first I am aware of driving up to the entrance of the store popping out and starting to shoot. That gave little time for anyone to react. Plus rifle was hidden until he popped out with it. No walking from a parking space in full tactical gear with a rifle to alert anyone. Did he move his car with him? As he was killed in a different part of the center. If he did this would have kept more ammunition nearby.

We can thank the bravery of this officer for keeping the magnitude of this event as small as he did.

A security guard was murdered by the shooter. Does anyone know if he was armed?

A brave store clerk guided customers into a back closet. She was then murdered by the shooter. Did the shooter enter stores or did he only shoot in the sidewalk areas where we have seen the terrible pictures?

7:30 pm on May 8, 2023

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1655 ... 55712.html

Have no idea if any of this is him. Guy who wrote it seems to think it’s all real. It’s from his social media posts to OK.RU, apparently quite a NAZI fan.

Visited the center 3 weeks before. Pretty much spelled out all he was doing online. Google the time where it was the most crowded.

Radio news this morning says “ white Supremacist”
Mentioned mental problems.

No mention of Brownsville terror mass murder.

It now has 8 deaths as well.

Murderer used a Range Rover. So a foreign made assault weapon SUV.

https://www.businessinsider.com/army-of ... rol-2023-5

Don’t read will just make you madder.

Guns fault says a gun lover former Army and police officer.

More from this guy.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... s-ban.html

Calls for automatic weapon ban.

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2 ... ids-alike/

I was told it was a Tango Blast tattoo. A gang tattoo.

To me that would rule out security guard.

Hispanic is white. So he was another young white man who lived at home with his parents. In other words it’s the guns. Follow the money like was done in Uvalde.

“Sources told WFAA that Garcia had been in the U.S. Army in 2008 but was removed due to mental health concerns.”

Ok, did it make it to the FBI.

Really sucks for those families. It like people are being paid or groomed to change or remove the second amendment.

Shooter in Allen May have been a security guard.

Without the heroic police officer this might have been even more horrific than it was.

Car was filled with more guns and ammo.

I realized I have been to this outlet mall.

ScottDLS wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 1:14 pm

philip964 wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 12:51 pm 7 dead after driver runs them over in front of migrant shelter

https://www.foxnews.com/us/7-dead-drive ... nt-shelter

Bad day in Texas for innocents.

Brownsville. Apparently it was intentional.

We need common sense car control laws.

He drove an SUV the assault weapon of passenger cars.

7 dead after driver runs them over in front of migrant shelter

https://www.foxnews.com/us/7-dead-drive ... nt-shelter

Bad day in Texas for innocents.

Brownsville. Apparently it was intentional.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... tlets.html

Victims include a child.

Video shows man killing an entire family. Pulls up to mall gets out of car and starts shooting.

He had lots of guns and ammo including at least one AR

Hero cop got a head shot.

Will be dropped from news very quickly.

RIP poor family.