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- Sun Sep 24, 2006 5:54 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: carry in a hospital?
- Replies: 16
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Yes, that is how I understand it. The hospital is apparently improperly posted for 30.06 according to the information presented at the beginning of this thread. That said, if a person were to carry there, be discovered to be carrying, and then informed that CHL is forbidden on the premises (a legitimate verbal warning irrespective of proper or improper signage), he would have to leave immediately and disarm in order to return. If he REFUSES to leave (while still carrying) he can be arrested for criminal trespass. As far as the hospital employee is concerned, the employer-employee relationship is quite clear. The employee does as the employer requires or it's hasta la bye bye! Make sense?
- Sun Sep 24, 2006 6:08 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: carry in a hospital?
- Replies: 16
- Views: 4185
It's not a tough call at all. He works for the hospital. If his employee manual has a passage that forbids employees having weapons at work then the issue of whether the 30.06 sign is correctly posted is moot. For him, the employee manual is the guiding document and has nothing to do with state law (if he wishes to keep his job).
- Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:29 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: carry in a hospital?
- Replies: 16
- Views: 4185
The law says a hospital must display the 30.06 sign to prohibit lawful concealed carry on hospital premises. If the hospital's employee handbook says no guns then they mean no guns. The two are NOT related. One is state law the other is employer regulations.
If a person (non employee) carrying concealed is caught carrying in the hospital a good argument could be made that the entrance was not properly posted. You know, like what IS the purpose of the law? The purpose of the law is to set a statewide standard of acceptable behavior.
However, an EMPLOYEE caught carrying in the hospital might win in court against any unlawful carry but I think the employer would can them in a heartbeat if for nothing else than to make an example of them. They might not do that and might only counsel the individual if they have a concealed carry permit but I wouldn't bet on it. They would be justified in firing them if 'no guns' is spelled out in the employee handbook. I recall something about an some oil company (?) firing personnel for having rifles in their pickups in the company parking lot. Texas law does allow the 30.06 posting of parking lots.
If a person (non employee) carrying concealed is caught carrying in the hospital a good argument could be made that the entrance was not properly posted. You know, like what IS the purpose of the law? The purpose of the law is to set a statewide standard of acceptable behavior.
However, an EMPLOYEE caught carrying in the hospital might win in court against any unlawful carry but I think the employer would can them in a heartbeat if for nothing else than to make an example of them. They might not do that and might only counsel the individual if they have a concealed carry permit but I wouldn't bet on it. They would be justified in firing them if 'no guns' is spelled out in the employee handbook. I recall something about an some oil company (?) firing personnel for having rifles in their pickups in the company parking lot. Texas law does allow the 30.06 posting of parking lots.