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by Mhoward
Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:32 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Taser / Deadly Force
Replies: 23
Views: 3526

Re: Taser / Deadly Force

jmra wrote:
Jumping Frog wrote:
jmra wrote: If the situation had progressed to the point where he did in fact cross that line by raising the taser and one of the individuals had a CHL, I believe they would have been justified in defending themselves.
Boy, that is the classic case of CHL nightmare scenario. Even if a CHL properly -- in 100% compliance with the law -- uses deadly force on an LEO, they can expect a whole truckload of problems.

The one that worries me most is being the subject of a "no-knock warrant", where the forcible entry is to the wrong address. The "homeowner shoots intruders" story does not have a happy ending.
I agree it is a nightmare. But watching this video forces me to consider the possibility.
I totally agree with you. When I was watching the video it just seems as if the kids were provoking him by not turning the camera off and walking away. Maybe the kept the camera on for protection or just so they can post in on the internet. In my younger days we use to run around and do "dumb" stuff but once we were confronted we would usually walk away. When I watched the video I just thought about what if that was me and, if I didn't do anything that terribly wrong, the security guard pulled a taser on me I would have probably drew my own weapon which would have more than likely ended badly after the police arrived. Have to be careful out there.
by Mhoward
Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:13 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Taser / Deadly Force
Replies: 23
Views: 3526

Re: Taser / Deadly Force

:iagree:

Thanks for the replies. Answered my questions perfectly as this forum usually does.
by Mhoward
Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:28 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Taser / Deadly Force
Replies: 23
Views: 3526

Re: Taser / Deadly Force

Good responses. I definitely agree that If I was threatened and couldn't get away I will have to draw. My thinking is just as what srothstein was taught, they could use the teaser "rlol" to disable me in order to do me more harm. I assume I would treat a taser just as a handgun, if someone pulled it on me and I could not get away, I'm not great at dodging bullets, I would draw my own handgun. Now to add a scenario lets say I was at the grocery store in the parking lot with my family and I "stole" some disgruntled guys parking spot. He gets out shouting and pulls a taser and points it towards my family from a fairly close distance, I can't back up and get out fast as the parking lot may be full of people. Now I am sure that I would go ahead and draw and put the guy down but how would that be seen in court? Was my use of a deadly weapon (handgun) justified even though the BG had a so called non-lethal taser? I guess it all up to the jury but I will do whatever it takes to keep my family and myself safe.

I had to go watch the "don't tase me bro" video on YouTube. If you haven't seen it before check it out for a good laugh.
by Mhoward
Sat Mar 31, 2012 6:48 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Taser / Deadly Force
Replies: 23
Views: 3526

Taser / Deadly Force

I have been searching the forum for a little while now looking to see if this topic has been brought up after I watched a video on the Houston news of a Wally world security guard (off duty police) pull a taser on a few kids. Now if you have seen the video the kids were sort of provoking it but it made me wonder about the use of deadly force if someone pulled a taser on you. Take one of the regular "deadly force is ok" scenarios that have been discussed on this forum but replace the perps weapon with a taser. Would the taser be described as a non-deadly weapon in court or would the situation justify the use of deadly force? What would you do in a situation where you are confronted with a BG with a taser?

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