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by karder
Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:32 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Has anyone figured out why the Immigration push?
Replies: 26
Views: 1900

Re: Has anyone figured out why the Immigration push?

cb1000rider wrote:Politically, it's probably not a good idea to not approve "something" in terms of immigration reform
I understand the philosophy behind this idea, but it is destroying us. Politicians from both parties who have built careers and fortunes pandering to special interest groups in return for votes and favorable media coverage have turned our entire system rotten and repugnant.

I choose to believe, perhaps incorrectly, that the American people will support politicians who make responsible decisions. Our country was not won by men who were taking the politically safest steps and racking up personal wealth along the way. Our founding fathers two options were victory or the gallows when they decided to seek independence from the British. I doubt there are many in Washington who step into those waters today.

We have an ever shrinking window of time to turn back from the path that we are on as a nation. I am not feeling confident that we will.
by karder
Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:20 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Has anyone figured out why the Immigration push?
Replies: 26
Views: 1900

Re: Has anyone figured out why the Immigration push?

"Immigration Reform" as it has been proposed here is an utter joke. The immigration system badly needs reform in my opinion. My wife is an immigrant and she did it the legal way, which was a proposteriously long, drawn out, expensive process. Think DMV on steroids. It does need major reform.

From what I have seen, there does not seem to be any real system reform being debated. It is just politicians pandering to special interest, porkbarrel buddies, and their voting base. The left says, "let's take 11 million illegal aliens and make them citizens". That is stupid. The right says "okay, sounds good, but first let's double the size of the border patrol". I don't know that expanding a federal agency has ever fixed a problem, but okay.

The illegal immigration problem is largly due to poor political decisions in the U.S. which create an natural need for illegal labor. There are a lot of low skill, low pay, hard labor jobs that we have a natural need to fill in this country--farm labors, domestic help, dishwashers and so on. That is normal in any society. In American society we have massive welfare programs which take the segement of the population who would normally be filling these jobs, and allows them to sit at home and live off the taxpayers.

Our politicans are literally paying this segment of the population to be professional voters and is leaving a huge gap in the workforce, which is being filled with illegal labor.

Here is how to deal with illegal immigration: kick everyone off welfare except the profoundly disabled. That will turn about 95% of the people on welfare back into the workforce and into the jobs currently being filled by illegals. The need for illegal labor will dry up and the motivation for immigrants to stream across the border will dry up with it.

The current plan being proposed is the worst of all worlds. If it works the way it is being proposed, 11 million illegals will become citizens. At this point, they will be crazy to continue working their low pay, hard labor jobs, and will get on welfare. Taxpayers will be on the hook to support them, as well as an additional 20,000 border patrol agents. We will still need lettuce picked, so new aliens will slip in to fill those jobs, no matter how high a wall we build.

This plan is the most dangerous thing we have floating around now as it will hasten the impending bankruptcy of this nation. Absurd in every way.

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