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Thanks for clarifying that, Mr Cotten, I was told by someone it included the range time, so that sounds much better. I am certainly not disputing the opinions of Instructors who have been doing this for years, I was just reporting what some experienced people I talked to reacted like to the idea. If the material is easily and thoroughly covered in 4 hours to amount to an equal effectiveness of learning by the class, then I see no reason not to do it that way. Will the DPS drop the dispute resolution requirement in it's current form? That part seems like it could be taught in a better way.

10 hours is definitely too long. People just can't easily absorb that much information in one sitting. It makes for a grueling class for everyone including the poor instructor who has to talk that long or do tag team teaching. But, there are an amazing number of students who come to class having zero knowledge of the laws or how to shoot a gun. It's those students you hope you can interest in staying after class for a while if we go with the 4 hours (which will include the range qual).

I have asked some instructors and the consensus I am getting is they are concerned about the 4 hours. They feel 10 hours is too long, but 4 is way too short. I'm not criticizing, just passing that along. One whose expertise I respect immediately said it made it look like someone just wanted to be able to cram two classes a day in. I know that is not the reason this is being proposed, but that is what enters the minds of people as a motivation for that particular length. If it passes, any instructor could offer additional time to students to cover things more fully, it would just have to be optional and done after their CHL100 was completed and given to them. At least that is my understanding.

A-R wrote:Curious whether this proposal in Michigan http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/201 ... extra.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Could be spun into a win-win for CHL holders in Texas ...

4 hours for "basic" CHL
10 hours for "advanced" CHL that allows carry in schools, sporting events, bars (if not intoxicated, of course), etc.

Just a radical idea for y'all to chew on

I would go for the training if it allowed me to carry more places in a heartbeat even if we were not grandfathered. Anything that makes the anti's more comfortable and expands my carry rights is a win win. (within reason of course)
I wonder if that MI bill will pass now with the Sandy Hook tragedy.
Edit; Nevermind, I see that the gov vetoed it because of it. Sigh. I hope he does not regret that.