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e-bil wrote:He could have done it from the outside without entering the building. You walk onto a lot and you'll have a salesperson on you quick. Ask for the mgr and all is done without entering a building.

speedsix wrote:

Scotth220 wrote:It was not a proper30.06 sign, but I was not going to tell them and allow them to post a proper one to possibly later use against a chl holder.

Needless to say, the wife is not happy about these actions at all... She really loves the new Sonota.

This of course is the closest dealership to the house.

...embalmo, I guess in your zeal to prove how wrong he was you missed the above post...he didn't do ANYTHING ILLEGAL!!!...and if he'd "...said that he couldn't trade with them because he had a concealed hangun license..."you'd have most likely set off on the same series of what-if worries...the second-guessing's not stopped by choice of words, no matter how careful...so we just can't agree...I'm done arguing with you about it...

speedsix wrote:...the dealership stood up on their hind legs and made their opinion clear...so did our OP...there was no argument or conflict...just a mutual expression of ideas...which, of course, is not illegal for either party...this has been "whatif-ed" into a heated argument which did not occur...nothing about the FACTS supports the theory that the salesman might call the police and make up a bunch of lies...but don't let the FACTS spoil the fearful tangents...the OP couldn't have handled the encounter better if he'd had a new haircut and just shined his tennis shoes...this is the USA and especially Texas...where most of us aren't afraid to speak of our convictions...

JP171 wrote:so does that mean if I disagree with someones rules tell them so and refuse to enter their property due to these rules, they ask why and I say entry is fobidden due to being a yard troll and that I am yard troll then I am arguing and making a threat? hmmm hope it doesn't break on ya man cause that limb is a little thin

oh and stating you have a weapon does not violate the C part of it

JP171 wrote:

Embalmo wrote:

speedsix wrote:

Embalmo wrote:

speedsix wrote:...you did it just right...don't let anyone talk you into living in the "what-if" fearful land of Oz...if the guy wants to file a false police report, and lie on the stand...that's HIS problem...you stood up and said your piece and stood up for all of us...thanks for doing so...then you took your money and left him with his mouth hanging open and his sales further down for the month...he may not change...but he won't forget!!!

It's always a dangerous thing to out oneself to a stranger, especially in the course of conflict. One could certainly make the argument that if you were arrested and and testimony were brought against you it would be a problem for you. So often all people hear when you're talking is, "Blah, blah, blah, blah, GUN!!"

"Officer, he came in, argued with me, he was angry about our store policy, he said that he wouldn't come back, and oh yea, on the way out he told me he was carrying a gun." You have to ask yourself if you would want this TRUTH to be conveyed to a police officer, and a local television reporter.

Embalmo[/quote

I...just read back and found this...more fearful imaginings...one could make the argument that the sales manager had a desk monkey with a big hammer with just as much validity...there was no conflict...merely an informing the salesman of why he lost some business...and "if you were arrested"...FOR WHAT????? it seems that whenever someone stands up and makes a firm statement about what they believe, the chickens all fly off their nests...for a minute...then they settle down again...the OP did a good thing the right way....and the sky is NOT falling...

I don't think it would be a good idea to tell someone in the course of an argument that you have a wrench in your pocket
either. Many people are freaked by guns and if you say that you have a gun in your pocket in the course of an argument it could easily be misconstrued as a threat; so it is radically brighter to keep the whole gun in your pocket to yourself.

don't remember seeing anything about an argument, why is everyone assuming there was an argument here, I agree with what the OP did, I would have done the same thing GB sign or legal 30:06 sign, they want to discriminate then I can too

speedsix wrote:

Embalmo wrote:

speedsix wrote:...you did it just right...don't let anyone talk you into living in the "what-if" fearful land of Oz...if the guy wants to file a false police report, and lie on the stand...that's HIS problem...you stood up and said your piece and stood up for all of us...thanks for doing so...then you took your money and left him with his mouth hanging open and his sales further down for the month...he may not change...but he won't forget!!!

It's always a dangerous thing to out oneself to a stranger, especially in the course of conflict. One could certainly make the argument that if you were arrested and and testimony were brought against you it would be a problem for you. So often all people hear when you're talking is, "Blah, blah, blah, blah, GUN!!"

"Officer, he came in, argued with me, he was angry about our store policy, he said that he wouldn't come back, and oh yea, on the way out he told me he was carrying a gun." You have to ask yourself if you would want this TRUTH to be conveyed to a police officer, and a local television reporter.

Embalmo[/quote

...just read back and found this...more fearful imaginings...one could make the argument that the sales manager had a desk monkey with a big hammer with just as much validity...there was no conflict...merely an informing the salesman of why he lost some business...and "if you were arrested"...FOR WHAT????? it seems that whenever someone stands up and makes a firm statement about what they believe, the chickens all fly off their nests...for a minute...then they settle down again...the OP did a good thing the right way....and the sky is NOT falling...

tacticool wrote:

Embalmo wrote:I wonder why so many members are fine with 30.06 posted gun shows while they gripe about a Chuck E. Cheese with a gunbuster sign.

Me too. I avoid the businesses with anti-CHL signs and spend my money where they don't post any.

terryg wrote:

Embalmo wrote:Just make sure that you only give them out to businesses that are putting up compliant signs.

That's where we disagree. These card's do not inform the business that their signs are not compliant. So I think should be no problem handing them out to businesses with gun busters.

It will let them know that they are losing business from those of us who choose to not shop there. And it will can only help reinforce the wrongheaded idea that the signs, even though we know they are not legally binding, do keep the unwanted guns out. Then those CHL holders, who like Embalmo, choose to shop anyway can continue to do so without any interference.

Everybody wins. You can continue to shop and we can continue to let them know they are losing our business.

Teamless wrote:

gemini wrote:Classic. Will be printing these when I get my plastic

You can buy them from TSRA
I bought a pack last year, haven't see a sign yet (other than gun shows) and no need dropping them off there!

speedsix wrote:...you did it just right...don't let anyone talk you into living in the "what-if" fearful land of Oz...if the guy wants to file a false police report, and lie on the stand...that's HIS problem...you stood up and said your piece and stood up for all of us...thanks for doing so...then you took your money and left him with his mouth hanging open and his sales further down for the month...he may not change...but he won't forget!!!