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Keith B wrote:

Embalmo wrote:

Keith B wrote:

Embalmo wrote:

Purplehood wrote:A sign simply means, "Caution, there is good stuff here. You might have to work a little harder to get it, but it is here".

Okay here is where the miscommunication lies. I guess I didn't make myself clear. I indicated that the sign states, "I will shoot intruders," which I thought implied that the "good stuff" stays with me at all times in order for me to make good on that warning, whether I'm home, or might come home with my weapon. I didn't say, "Intruders will be shot if I'm home because I leave my guns there when I'm not home." That is why I asked if LEO houses got burglarized disproportionately because bad guys know know they have/carry guns.

I'm guessing that there is a distinction in a criminal's mind between "this guy has guns" and "this guys has guns, carries guns, and knows how to use guns".

Embalmo

LEO's don't put signs in front of their houses saying 'A LEO lives here'. Posting something like that shows you have guns, but like the ADT sign in your yard says you have a burglar alarm. Best to leave the bravado and machismo out of your statements and postings about what you will do.

Also, I can see a potential issue if you ever have to shoot an intruder, and the shoot is questionable, there may be some question as to your eagerness to shoot someone who comes on your property.

I can certainly see both sides of this debate, and I'm not sure if I would ever want to out myself-I'm just gathering opinions and experience. I indicated, hypothetically how a sign could be phrased to deter threats, but I think it's best to leave out insulting words to describe an individual (or his words) publicly like "machismo" and "bravado".

Embalmo

Those comments were not aimed at you, but at the way a sign like that posted anywhere by anyone may be interpreted. It is like someone bragging 'anyone that comes on my property will be shot' and then you have to shoot someone justifiably. It just wont' look good in the investigation and will bring up questions.

Keith B wrote:

Embalmo wrote:

Purplehood wrote:A sign simply means, "Caution, there is good stuff here. You might have to work a little harder to get it, but it is here".

Okay here is where the miscommunication lies. I guess I didn't make myself clear. I indicated that the sign states, "I will shoot intruders," which I thought implied that the "good stuff" stays with me at all times in order for me to make good on that warning, whether I'm home, or might come home with my weapon. I didn't say, "Intruders will be shot if I'm home because I leave my guns there when I'm not home." That is why I asked if LEO houses got burglarized disproportionately because bad guys know know they have/carry guns.

I'm guessing that there is a distinction in a criminal's mind between "this guy has guns" and "this guys has guns, carries guns, and knows how to use guns".

Embalmo

LEO's don't put signs in front of their houses saying 'A LEO lives here'. Posting something like that shows you have guns, but like the ADT sign in your yard says you have a burglar alarm. Best to leave the bravado and machismo out of your statements and postings about what you will do.

Also, I can see a potential issue if you ever have to shoot an intruder, and the shoot is questionable, there may be some question as to your eagerness to shoot someone who comes on your property.

Purplehood wrote:A sign simply means, "Caution, there is good stuff here. You might have to work a little harder to get it, but it is here".

03Lightningrocks wrote:
I think you might be advertising you own guns and get robbed when you are out of the house. I won't even put an NRA sticker on my truck for this reason. I would prefer the bad guys not know I have anything worth stealing.

pbwalker wrote:

Embalmo wrote:I hope this isn't a hijack, but I've given consideration to the idea of a serious lawn sign with window stickers that indicate that I will shoot intruders. I think, if it worked, it would be ideal, because it is my goal to never draw or fire on a threat. I guess that is really my attitude toward personal protection, I want to make the potential threats aware of my strengths so I will never have to use them.

Embalmo

Sure...do that. Then, when the BG's see you leave your house, they know that there is a high likelihood of weapons being in the house. All these signs and stickers are just adverts for the contents of your home.

As for the CHL badge, well...my thoughts are that the folks who buy CHL badges are mall commandos, tacticool dorks, etc. Wannabe cops, basically.

(not a personal attack...I haven't read the thread to see who and who not is in favor of a CHL badge...these are just my personal opinions / observations)

My $0.02

Hoi Polloi wrote: I remember someone on this board recently saying that an establishment in his area has a non-compliant no guns sign and he likes to occasionally carry his guns in there just out of defiance. I imagine someone who is decked out in CHL sash and hat and whatnot would likewise attract attention that would not have been invited had the person blended in more inconspicuously.

Particularly if I was alone in a scary area, I would not want to make others think I have a CHL both because it could be taken as a challenge to one-up me and because the element of surprise would not be on my side as the bad guy introduced himself by trying to disarm me.

bdickens wrote:

Embalmo wrote:Though people always balk around here at the idea of a CHL badge, I think there are places where IDEALLY (focus on the word ideally) concealed shouldn't always mean concealed. If I had to walk in a scary area to my car, I wouldn't be opposed to a shirt, hat, badge, sash that indicates, "Warning CONCEALED WEAPON PERMIT CARRIER," which might eliminate the need for me to react in the first place to an attack. I would love for my wife to be able to have CHL written all over her clothing.

I believe that the reason that we cannot do this is because of the fear and ignorance of the left, general public, LEO, (and don't give me grief over LEO because CHLs can/do get arrested from LEOs who've never heard of a CHL or a 30.06 sign [they do exists]) and antis in general. It is sad that I have to keep something that is perfectly legal a secret to avoid scrutiny, when getting the word out might save me and my family from attacks.

Embalmo

Particularly if I was alone in a scary area, I would not want to make others think I have a CHL both because it could be taken as a challenge to one-up me and because the element of surprise would not be on my side as the bad guy introduced himself by trying to disarm me

WildBill wrote:

Embalmo wrote:I agree with whoever said that a DPS issued whatever that LEOs recognize would be cool. I think a big fat laminate would do the trick.

Embalmo

That was me.

You don't know if he's still armed or could possibly get up and pose a threat again. I myself, am going to cover him until police arrive for my own safety.

5thGenTexan wrote:Embalmo unfortunately with a lot of the BG's out there you are dealing with some low IQ's combined with some really amped up bravado that decide to escalate the stakes at a later date if you cut em loose. They just can't take losing face over someone getting the better of them.

Being cowards they don't always come back head on or alone. I figure the BG is leaving in a vehicle equipped with a siren one way or the other. If he ain't hurt and wants to come back later to see if things have a different ending at least the cops will have a name to start searching on.