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Since I am partly responsible for high jacking this thread I feel obliged to return to the original topic. I found a .22LR fun gun/rifle today. I know a couple of little girls that will be thrilled come Christmas.

goose wrote:

puma guy wrote: BTW heads up to anyone near Burleson. The Academy there has some CCI Maxi Mag +V .22WMR 30 grn for $13.99, Federal Blue box40grn 1250FPS $2.29, 500 round Rem Golden Bullet $24.99 and Federal AutoMatch $17.97/325 rounds. They had decent amounts so that gives me reason to be optimistic that we may be over the hill.

Dang. WMR is the holy grail right now. 22LR is on the shelf. 22Mag would rock! I also feel like we are close to over the hill. Fingers crossed.

I didn't buy any since I have enough. The Pasadena Academy had .22WMR available on the shelf two different times in September.

Taypo wrote:

puma guy wrote:

Taypo wrote:

winters wrote:I only buy 22lr when its under 6 cents a bullet. Lately I have had pretty good luck buying it cheap. people who buy it at 10 cents or more are just fueling the price gouging. And don't tell me its "free market". EVERYONE used to sell it for a decent price now you never know.

Gas used to be $1.00 a gallon, too.

No gas used to be 29.9 cents a gallon and down to 13-14 cents in gas wars. Just to put things in perspective that was the mid 1960's and .22 shells sold for about 50-65 cents bx/50 and we'd run them on sale for .33 a box. The wholesale price for Remington/Peters .22 lr was about 60-65 cents. Vendors got them a little cheaper. The wholesale price of a Remington 700 BDL was $119 and Winchester Model 70 about the same; $110 and ammo was $3-4 bx/20. A 1964 Pontiac Tempest with the GTO option - hardtop with a 389/325 HP , Four speed Borg-Warner tranny and Hurst shifter could be had for $3000 drive out. (List price for one with all the options was about 4500 bucks) So A Remington 700BDL is now about $1000 and good ammo for your Model 700 is 35-40 bucks a box of 20. The last GTO was about $35000.

.22LR are selling for $2.19-2.29 bx/50 at Academy. Any questions?

Nope. You sure showed me how price gouging works.

My real point is that prices for some things have increased at different rates than others. Nowadays .22 ammo at normal prices is a bargain. If it followed the inflation of the other things I listed it would be about 12 cents a round, but you can buy it at WalMart and Academy for about 4-5 cents a round. A lot of font has been used on this forum trying to explain the .22 ammo drought (even though manufacturers say they're producing more than ever) - I won't try to explain it. The drought, real or perceived has spawned gouging at gun shows as a routine matter and even some retail sellers do the same when they get it from legitimate vendors, just because they can. There are also people who buy it whenever they see it whether they actually need it or not. From time to time I do buy some for my sons-in-'law when I see it at a non-inflated price. I bought plenty before the crises and don't have to buy .22 LR for myself.
Then there the evil vultures that arrive on the mornings of delivery at WalMarts with several of their friends and suck up all the available .22 ammo. I know of at least two guys who do this and they think it's funny. Forum rules prevent my from commenting. A small LGS I frequent has a hard time getting any .22 from his vendors and many times has to buy from those jerks just so he can have it for his customers when they purchase a .22 rifle or pistol. He marks it up a little from their ridiculous prices when he sells it over the counter, but not much. Those guys also sell a lot to the dealers at gun shows.

BTW heads up to anyone near Burleson. The Academy there has some CCI Maxi Mag +V .22WMR 30 grn for $13.99, Federal Blue Box 40grn 1250FPS $2.29/50, 500 round Rem Golden Bullet $24.99 and Federal AutoMatch $17.97/325 rounds. They had decent amounts with a 500 round limit, so that gives me reason to be optimistic that we may be over the hill.

Taypo wrote:

winters wrote:I only buy 22lr when its under 6 cents a bullet. Lately I have had pretty good luck buying it cheap. people who buy it at 10 cents or more are just fueling the price gouging. And don't tell me its "free market". EVERYONE used to sell it for a decent price now you never know.

Gas used to be $1.00 a gallon, too.

No gas used to be 29.9 cents a gallon and down to 13-14 cents in gas wars. Just to put things in perspective that was the mid 1960's and .22 shells sold for about 50-65 cents bx/50 and we'd run them on sale for .33 a box. The wholesale price for Remington/Peters .22 lr was about 60-65 cents. Vendors got them a little cheaper. The wholesale price of a Remington 700 BDL was $119 and Winchester Model 70 about the same; $110 and ammo was $3-4 bx/20. A 1964 Pontiac Tempest with the GTO option - hardtop with a 389/325 HP , Four speed Borg-Warner tranny and Hurst shifter could be had for $3000 drive out. (List price for one with all the options was about 4500 bucks) So A Remington 700BDL is now about $1000 and good ammo for your Model 700 is 35-40 bucks a box of 20. The last GTO was about $35000.

.22LR are selling for $2.19-2.29 bx/50 at Academy. Any questions?

JRG wrote:

puma guy wrote:

JRG wrote:Thanks for all the suggestions. I had not seen the AR-7 before.

I went today to the Arlington Academy sports and bought a Ruger 10/22 Takedown. I got the black synthetic stock with the stainless barrel and works. I love the bag! Plenty of room for the broken down gun and several hundred rounds of ammo on the inside. That still leaves the two pouches on the outside. I am excited.

One thing about Academy Sports, this was my first gun purchase with them. I found it interesting that the salesman carried the gun to the front, kept it in his hands during my paying for it, and then carried it out the front door before handing it to me. I was beginning to think he was going to carry it to my truck for me. ha

Joe

Unlike Academy which has no checkout at the gun counter. you can pay at the sporting goods counter at WalMart, but they still carry it out the door. I bought a .22 pistol at Academy and they wouldn't sell me any .22 ammo at the same time. I just put the pistol in the truck and reentered to get the ammo. I found a very interesting review on the 10/22 TD. I'll look for it, but he tested the rifle one shot at a time for accuracy and disassembled it after each shot. He used the iron sights and took the gun right out of the box. The results were very good. I'll look for it and post if I locate it.

I asked about .22 ammo before we headed up to the front. The guy pointed out what they had, but it was all such over priced stuff I declined. The cheapest was %59 per brick and went up to $89 per brick. I'll shoot my Bucket o Bullets thank you very much.

Joe

.22 is coming back so just watch your local stores for the reasonably priced stuff. Rugers sometimes prefer one ammunition over another so it makes sense try different ammo for the best accuracy and functionality.

Ruger 10/22 TD Accuracy test

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013 ... -takedown/

WildBill wrote:Any recommendations for a scope for the Marlin XT-22?

I don't want to pay more for the scope than the rifle.

Well maybe a little more.

Bill,
Deals can be found on scopes for .22's, but I'd stick to the higher end brands. Knowing you you'd most likely do that anyway. I have purchased Tasco and Simmons .22 variable 1" tube scopes that were in the $50-60 range (I knew better, but hey it's a .22, right? ) they both fogged up. It's not worth the postage (both ways) and warranty fee ($10) to send them back. Both brands are owned and serviced by Bushnell BTW; probably the same scopes. I got a Redfield Battlezone TAC 2-7x 34mm for $91 back in August. It's calibrated for 36grn 1250fps ammo. I haven't decided on which rifle to install it yet. I found a little more information on Marlins since the Remington take over. The bolt actions (.22 and centerfire) seem to have not had the drastically poor quality of the lever guns. Also the auto-loading models 60, 795 and probably the 70 Papoose are made in Mayfield, KY and are not having any major issues. The XTR is based on Marlins tried and true bolt action design from the 1930's, but have an improved trigger; The Pro-Fire adjustable. Magazines are practically a dime a dozen. My old vintage bolt action Marlins with basic triggers are outstanding little rifles for such a simple design.

JRG wrote:Thanks for all the suggestions. I had not seen the AR-7 before.

I went today to the Arlington Academy sports and bought a Ruger 10/22 Takedown. I got the black synthetic stock with the stainless barrel and works. I love the bag! Plenty of room for the broken down gun and several hundred rounds of ammo on the inside. That still leaves the two pouches on the outside. I am excited.

One thing about Academy Sports, this was my first gun purchase with them. I found it interesting that the salesman carried the gun to the front, kept it in his hands during my paying for it, and then carried it out the front door before handing it to me. I was beginning to think he was going to carry it to my truck for me. ha

Joe

Unlike Academy which has no checkout at the gun counter. you can pay at the sporting goods counter at WalMart, but they still carry it out the door. I bought a .22 pistol at Academy and they wouldn't sell me any .22 ammo at the same time. I just put the pistol in the truck and reentered to get the ammo. I found a very interesting review on the 10/22 TD. I'll look for it, but he tested the rifle one shot at a time for accuracy and disassembled it after each shot. He used the iron sights and took the gun right out of the box. The results were very good. I'll look for it and post if I locate it.

VMI77 wrote:I highly recommend the Henry AR7. It's sold as a survival rifle. Receiver and barrel break down and fit into the stock along with two mags. It's water proof and floats (broken down). It has an adjustable rear blade peep sight with an orange nicely visible front sight post. My old eyes had no problem hitting a variety of targets out to 75 yards. It's lightweight and a blast to shoot. $250 at Cabelas.

If space is an issue it's perfect, makes a great bug out bag weapon as well.

mrvmax wrote:I have a NIB Marlin XT22 with a threaded barrel for sale for $150 out the door. Not sure where you are but I'm a few miles from PSC

That's a shooter! Tube or box mag and wood or synthetic stock?

JRG wrote:I am getting a new .22LR gun/rifle in the next week or so and would like to hear from the group about what is a good 'un to look for. I have been researching Ruger 10//22 and Ruger Chargers, mainly in the takedown versions, but am not married to either of them. I am a full-time RVer and space can be at a premium in the RV. That is why I was thinking about the Takedowns.

I want a fun gun to shoot at paper targets, cans, etc. Simplicity is the key. I am not looking for a gun that will shoot the eye out of a flea at 100 yards. I doubt I could see 100 yards at my age anyways.

Any ideas guys/girls?

Thanks,
Joe

If your looking for a semi-auto you can't go wrong with a Ruger 10/22. I used to recommend Marlin Model 60's before Remington (nee Freedom Arms Group) bought them out. Older Marlins w/ JM proof marked barrels are a still go.