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Sorry TAM and any others, like Andy C I just couldn't help myself.

WildBill wrote:

puma guy wrote:Someone mentioned a patent on FireClean, interestingly WD-40 was not patented to prevent anyone from discovering the proprietary formula for the new product "water displacement - 40th formula".

I think I read somewhere that the proprietary ingredient was Crisco.

Charles L. Cotton wrote:"Ed's Red."

Chas.

What vintage?

WildBill wrote:

xb12s wrote:I have no opinion of the stuff. I do enjoy using an odorless system myself presently. Super Lube. I stumbled on it after researching about Frog Lube a couple years back.

I saw that Larry Vickers came to the defense of Fire Clean this morning. I think he has a dog in the fight - sponsor/promoter or something. But he did bring up a few good points. 1) It's been vetted by some portions of the military already. 2) They have an organic chemist on their side too saying that the other Ph D chemist did an overly simplified analysis that proved nothing. 3) this one may be the most important - they have patents concerning their formula - which you would think they could not get if it was the same as Crisco.

I'd post/link his response, but it was on FB and I don't have access to that from here.

I have no opinion of the stuff either and I don't plan on buying or using it.
The patent application states that the lube is a mixture of at least three vegetable oils with smoke points higher than 200F.
From what I can gather, the invention is supposed to reduce carbon fouling on a mechanical item.

I have not read the Facebook pages so I can't comment on them. If I read them I probably still won't comment on them.
I do have a couple comments from the information that xb12s posted.
First about their opposing chemists - go to any trial having expert witnesses and you will see experts on both sides with different opinions.
Just because you have applied for or have been issued a patent doesn't mean your product is any good or better than another product.
This patent application is for a material to prevent carbon fouling on a mechanical item.
I don't think Crisco was patented for such a purpose.

Seems everyone has a favorite lubricant. I will avoid getting tangled in this discourse by not identifying what I use for internal lube, but for protection of my stored weapons I use an old standard called Rusteprufe Chamois kit. I then place them inside silicon gun socks which also prevents damage should I bump another gun putting it in the safe. We used Rusteprufe to wipe down our display firearms in the 60's and 70's when I was selling sporting goods. We had hundreds of people handling the guns and it was the best we found to prevent rust and corrosion. I think they make a solvent also. We tried WD-40, but it would build up too much. Someone mentioned a patent on FireClean, interestingly WD-40 was not patented to prevent anyone from discovering the proprietary formula for the new product "water displacement - 40th formula".

WildBill wrote:There has got to be a tremendous profit margin on these products.

I could buy a quart of Mobile One and put 3 ozs of the stuff in a small jar and sell it for for than it cost me for the quart.

Very interesting information. Specialty lubricant base stock is usually made to specs for the purchaser and proprietary ingredients are added by the end manufacturer, We used paraffinic crude feed for some lubes and naphthenic for others. There were several processes involved to get to the lubricant stage; for instance dewaxing, deep hydro-treating and for others we used phenol and later NMP to remove unwanted constituents. Not related to guns, but we also made the base stock oil for Hawaiian Tropic tanning products. I guess you could slather some on before shooting in the sun.
We made and marketed our own lubricants, motor oils and grease with our own added proprietary ingredients. One in particular seemed like a good idea to someone in the Atlantic Richfield product development group, but turned into a marketing disaster. Anyone who used ARCO Graphite motor oil knows what I mean. We also made high purity food grade oil for food processing equipment and several grades of oil used as dust suppressants in grain elevators. There was no shelf life on these products that I recall (the feedstock was millions of years old ). While oxygen eventually has effects on hydrocarbons it would not be unusable within a year like vegetable based oils. I wouldn't want a rancid gun.