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39 CFR 232.1
(l) Weapons and explosives. Notwithstanding the provisions of any other law, rule or regulation, no person while on postal property may carry firearms, other dangerous or deadly weapons, or explosives, either openly or concealed, or store the same on postal property, except for official purposes.

Notwithstanding Title 18, United States Code, Section 930 as I understand the language.
(a) Except as provided in subsection (d), whoever knowingly possesses or causes to be present a firearm or other dangerous weapon in a Federal facility (other than a Federal court facility), or attempts to do so, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 1 year, or both.

The sign posted at my post office cites both. Federal facilities is defined as anywhere federal employees carry out their official duties.
I'll leave anyone to make their own interpretation. I'll leave mine in the truck when I enter a US Post Office.

Jumping Frog wrote:

puma guy wrote:Whether or not one decides to break the law is up to them I guess, but in the case of Federal facilities (not including courthouses) if it's not properly posted as required by law and someone is aware it's off limits they have no defense. Penalty "shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 1 year, or both." Where is the $50 fine cited?

Post Offices are not "federal facilities", they are a separate federally owned corporation. The $50 fine is in the Postal Regulations. I don't have the time to look up the cite right now, but that is where you'll find it.

I don't believe the USPS can set punishment for criminal offenses, but IANAL. Please post a link.

The only thing I found cites Title 18, United States Code, Section 930
http://about.usps.com/posters/pos158/welcome.htm

jbarn wrote:

chasfm11 wrote:

jbarn wrote:

Jumping Frog wrote:Hey, even if the guess is wrong and some jackwagon decides it is postal property, it is a $50 fine.

I am not worried about a $50 fine.

How about the 30 days in jail?

A lot of things would have to go very wrong for me to get to that point. I'm coming up on license renewal and have been carrying daily since about 2 months after I got my plastic. I've pushed the "bulge" limits on shirts pretty far and have never heard a peep out of anyone. Most of the time, there isn't even the slightest bump. So:

1. I would have to do something stupid and let my shirt ride up to actually show something.
2. At that precise moment, the proper authority figure is going to have to be there and instantly decide to arrest me. The dry cleaning place is pretty small and I'm usually in and out in less than 2 minutes. I like it because there is hardly ever a line and I'm prepared with everything I need before I walk in the door, even if I'm going to do something like a certified letter.

Those are pretty long odds. I'll take 'em.

OK. So you intentionally break the law as long as it is not "too serious" in your mind, and your chances if getting caught are "pretty slim" in your mind. Gotcha.

Whether or not one decides to break the law is up to them I guess, but in the case of Federal facilities (not including courthouses) if it's not properly posted as required by law and someone is aware it's off limits they have no defense. Penalty "shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 1 year, or both." Where is the $50 fine cited?

Just the portion of the store leased or operated by the post office is off limits from my understanding, the rest of the building is not. If a PO is in a strip center it's off limits but not the other businesses nor the parking lot. Bonidy vs USPS in July 2013 ruled the prohibition of firearms and weapons did not apply to PO parking lots. Also the law requires Federal buildings and parking lots be posted. 18 USC Sec. 930 01/03/2007 Title 18

IANAL so if I'm incorrect - Need lawyer input HERE.

I've been to Fischer Store up by Canyon Lake and there's a PO inside, but I saw no posting.
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