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by puma guy
Thu Sep 19, 2013 4:00 pm
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Topic: insulating a garage
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Re: insulating a garage

cb1000rider wrote:
RoadRunnerTR21 wrote:I'm glad I live in a area where there is no such thing as code. We bought a 2 year old house in 2004 that has duct work running out to the garage. I can open or close air flow by a damper valve. I have always left it closed but it is nice to know that I have the option.
That code exists so it's a little harder to kill yourself via forgetting that the car is running in the garage.. It may be a darwinism-preventer, but I'm just sayin'....

On a side note, for garage AC, they make these highly efficient ductless split AC systems. The do require the penetration of an exterior wall, but they wouldn't violate code in most residential areas.

And I'm with you RoadRunner, there are advantages to living in an area without a lot of city regulation.
The codes are written with the best intentions, but don't always make sense. Fumes from an running car engine in a garage are just as likely to infiltrate back to a house w/o duct since the return pulls from a source whether it's fed by a forced air flow or not. The code for having a water heater 18 inches above the floor makes sense in a garage where there's a likely hood of a gasoline or volatile liquid leak providing heavier than air fumes. The code in our fair city doesn't make an exception for water heaters installed inside the house. I had to argue with our inspector that since we have a detached garage, gasoline fumes were not likely a problem. Then he told me there could always be a natural gas leak and added that the platform had to be metal because, according to him, if there was a fire the metal heater stand wouldn't burn up, thus would still be elevated! :smilelol5: Uh! Yeah but #1 Methane is lighter than air and #2 if the place is on fire a gasoline leak most likely is, too! I eventually won out since the dryer was adjacent to the heater and it wasn't elevated. He just wrote N/A.
by puma guy
Wed Sep 18, 2013 2:43 pm
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: insulating a garage
Replies: 17
Views: 3324

Re: insulating a garage

1s1k52 wrote:
puma guy wrote:I was thinking of insulation my garage once and was advised against it. It has to do with moisture in the garage and no air conditioning to remove it. The insulation actually traps moisture. I no longer have that home, but the home I now have had a room installed above the garage and has insulation installed in the floor (ceiling of the garage). The paint is bubbled and some is peeling off the ceiling of the garage. Also some of the joint tape has let loose. I assume the cause is what was described to me when I asked about insulating a garage. I'm no expert, so you might want to check with a reputable insulation contractor.
HMM some of the homes I go into now have insulated doors and are insulated in the attics but nothing aside from that looks different from my garage? so I wonder if I have over looked something minor.
If your garage floor was poured with a vapor barrier you can probably get away with it. That's where much of the moisture comes from. Both my houses were built in the mid 1960's and that was definitely not the practice back then, I don't know if it's even standard now to pour garages with a vapor barrier. Of course if you air condition (window unit) the garage it will help keep the moisture down.
cb1000rider wrote: YMMV, but I have a large insulated garage. It's open-cell foam insulated within ceiling. Open cell foam on the side facing the house interior and the rest of it is standard fiberglass insulation.
It can retain heat when you part hot cars in it, but I've had no issues with pain bubbling, lose joints, or drywall.

Note, my garage doors are not insulated.
If the house was built with a room above the garage or insulation was installed at the time the builder probably took steps to eliminate ground moisture from migrating through the slab. I live on the gulf coast so there's usually plenty of moisture (recent droughts not withstanding) in the gumbo soil. Like I said I'm no expert just going by what the contractor told me when I was adding insulation and thought about doing the garage. I just remebered we had our rent house re-insulated two years ago and the guys advised against doing the garage as well.
by puma guy
Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:56 am
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: insulating a garage
Replies: 17
Views: 3324

Re: insulating a garage

I was thinking of insulation my garage once and was advised against it. It has to do with moisture in the garage and no air conditioning to remove it. The insulation actually traps moisture. I no longer have that home, but the home I now have had a room installed above the garage and has insulation installed in the floor (ceiling of the garage). The paint is bubbled and some is peeling off the ceiling of the garage. Also some of the joint tape has let loose. I assume the cause is what was described to me when I asked about insulating a garage. I'm no expert, so you might want to check with a reputable insulation contractor.

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