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Flightmare wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 9:10 pm I can't tell from the video if the guy outside the vehicle was actually reaching for the driver's gun, attempting to push him, or reaching to collect something (like exchanging insurance). There is so little information in this video, and it's VERY easy to take it out of context. I hear what sounds like the car radio of the vehicle the dash cam is mounted in, but cannot hear what was said between the 2 involved in this incident.

His body position puts him in a awkward posture if he was attempting to grab something. Left arm at his side, stooped at an angle and his arm was retracted before the guy shot him 5 times. Stop motioned the video. It looked to me like his hand was level with the driver's shoulder and he made a sort of poke. His arm was definitely away from the window and his hand was palm down, fingers extended as if he just finished a poking when the guy opened fire. I say bad shoot.

philip964 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 4:25 pm https://redstatenation.com/video-man-ge ... f-defense/

The article asks is this self defense. The man shot was the one out of his car with his head inside the window of the other car.

I would say it is self defense. Had the man outside his car had brought a gun with him and stuck it in the car, and the man in the car tried to grab it, and the man outside the car shot and killed the man inside the car it would not be self defense but murder.

I don't see self defense in that video. The truck guys arm and hand were out of the window and he had disengaged from the vehicle posing no threat. IMHO