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JALLEN wrote:
No, noting a buyer's name, address etc didn't strike me as a "list." I suppose the info could be added to a list with other buyers. Or maybe a database!

That's exactly what it is! They absolutely intend on adding your personal information to a database for retention, though I've yet to figure out for what value it could possibly have. However, I'm positive nothing good can come of it.

Just for the record I've been reading your posts since before you moved back from the PRK and the first time I had the occasion to disagree with you. 99% of the time we're on the same side, but with all due respect, I think you missed on this one. If you think nothing nefarious can come of this we'll have to agree to disagree.

JALLEN wrote:

lfinsr wrote:

JALLEN wrote:The government has a rich history of requiring lists which soon are inaccurate, meaningless, and serve only to give a false sense of something being done, and worse, can become a political weapon for whatever administration happens to feel the need.

But you're okay with a list to buy ammo?

Where did you get that impression?

From the thread on Academy...
"What is the objection to producing ID?

You have to show ID to vote, after all."

Was there sarcasm that I missed?

JALLEN wrote:The government has a rich history of requiring lists which soon are inaccurate, meaningless, and serve only to give a false sense of something being done, and worse, can become a political weapon for whatever administration happens to feel the need.

But you're okay with a list to buy ammo?

cb1000rider wrote:

cbunt1 wrote: The "No Fly List" has no, zero, nada, nothing in the way of due process associated with it. Once you're on it, it's up to you to figure out how to get off of it, there's no way to force your removal, and there's no need for a conviction or proof of activity or wrongdoing to be placed on the list.

I think that's a legit "legal" concern. You can be granted rights by the constitution to only have then taken away by a secret un-adjudicated process. Still, it strikes many people as funny (including myself) that we're willing to ban them from commercial airlines, but they can still buy weapons.

There has to be a better way...

Because you shouldn't circumvent due process doesn't mean it couldn't run up a red flag that could/should be follow up on, especially when you've been vocally sympathetic to terrorist causes.