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quidni wrote:

austinrealtor wrote: I am seriously allergic to it (coughing fits from being around too much cigarette smoke).

VoiceofReason wrote:I have to wonder if the amount of “third hand smoke” is significant enough to have any affect. I also have to wonder if this “study” is similar to “studies” of handgun violence cited in an effort to enact more restrictive gun laws.

I, too, have developed a serious allergy to tobacco. Being around someone who is a heavy smoker will often make it hard for me to breathe even if s/he isn't lit up at the time. Cigar smoke makes me extremely nauseous.

Riding in a car that's been smoked in, even if no one is smoking at the moment, has made me pass out. Driving said car would be out of the question for me because of the danger of passing out. I still can't ride in my husband's car, even though he had to quit smoking after his stroke last year. (he's always smoked outside, & "aired out" before coming back inside.) We always take my vehicle when we go somewhere together. So yes, the "third hand smoke" issue is real - although it may not be a serious issue for most people.

There are some perfumes that have similar effects on me, especially if the person is wearing more than just a little bit. Anaphylaxis is no fun.

Even so, I do not believe that the government should legislate bans against tobacco or perfumes. Let the market handle it. I understand how hard it is to break a nicotine addiction, even if I disagree with smoking in general. And these perfumes smell good to the wearers, or else they wouldn't wear them. They are not deliberately setting out to harm someone else by their choice to smoke, or to marinate in their scent of choice. This is not, and should not be considered, criminal behavior. Nuisance sometimes, yes, but criminal, no, unlike someone breaking into my home or threatening me in a parking lot.

The world does not revolve around me. If there is a part of the world that is not dangerous to someone else, but is dangerous to me, then it is my responsibility to defend myself against it - it's not up to someone else to make sure I don't come in contact with it. Anymore, I always keep benadryl and an epi-pen handy, just in case. And yes, while I normally don't advocate purse-carry, I will purse-carry those.

marksiwel wrote:

chartreuse wrote:

marksiwel wrote:I gotta believe 3rd hand smoke is a hazard, I believe that we do pollute a lot and that it effecting us (Look at the number of cancers and increase in birth defects) is it global warming? Maybe not, but is reducing pollution a bad thing?

Depends on a number of factors, I guess, but here's two for starters:
1: How do you define pollution? The EPA just classified CO2 as a pollutant, yet it's essential to the life of the plants that feed us and give us air to breath.
2: Is the "cure" worse than the "disease"? Yes, Cap and Trade, I'm looking at you...

Well Methane, Mercury and Lead are all on earth aka Natural, but how much of it do you want in your drinking water, food and air?

marksiwel wrote:I gotta believe 3rd hand smoke is a hazard, I believe that we do pollute a lot and that it effecting us (Look at the number of cancers and increase in birth defects) is it global warming? Maybe not, but is reducing pollution a bad thing?

marksiwel wrote:

chartreuse wrote:

marksiwel wrote:Also they raise the rates because they are JERKS! Its all about money, they raise the rates because they raise the rates. If they could they would take your DNA and then raise your rates. They would raise your rates based on race if they could. they would raise your rates because you are a gun owner if they could.

with you on this, if not on smoking bans.

Its like abortion, I dont like it but I dont think they should be able to pass laws against it. I like dont like smoking and dont think they should pass laws against it, but they do need to compansate for the health hazards it does create, like this third hand smoke they mention in the article.

marksiwel wrote:Also they raise the rates because they are JERKS! Its all about money, they raise the rates because they raise the rates. If they could they would take your DNA and then raise your rates. They would raise your rates based on race if they could. they would raise your rates because you are a gun owner if they could.

marksiwel wrote:Yeah theres tons of 90 year old smokers, here is where the rest of the old smokers hang out

marksiwel wrote:ACORN? What? I'm not following you.
Look I dont like smoking, I wish people would just stop on their own. I realize legislating away Behavior isnt the "American Way" but I just really hate Smoking, gives me headaches, kills my nose, ect. Also I've seen too many people get hurt from it.
If you want to smoke, go ahead, but as for restaurants I like how they have it in Austin. Basically you can smoke, but, there has to be a totally separate AC unit in the building (Well atleast thats how they do it in Trudys)
I grew up in Dallas where people still smoke indoors, moved to Boston for a few years, where you can barley smoke, and then moved to Austin, where its the same. Whenever I go to Dallas its like a SMACK in the face.
Pass laws against smoking? Maybe. Hope people will smarten up and stop smoking all together? Maybe

marksiwel wrote:

KD5NRH wrote:

marksiwel wrote:But when you smoke in a resturant and I'm 5 tables away and I'm getting hurt, too bad, so sad, no smoking.

Who forced you to go to that restaurant? How about no telling other people what they can do with their property? Don't like the way they're using it, go elsewhere. Can't find an elsewhere you like, start your own business and run it the way you want.

Heh, if you're mad about the goverment telling people what they can and cant do with their property when it comes to something reasonable like smoking, you are in for a shock if you ever have to deal with zoning laws

marksiwel wrote:So what kind of Hazard pay do you get as a Waitress or bus boy?

marksiwel wrote:Did anyone force me to eat a Cheese Burger? But if I ate a Cheese Burger and you somehow got fat because of it, I could see you point. But when you smoke in a resturant and I'm 5 tables away and I'm getting hurt, too bad, so sad, no smoking.

seniorshooteress wrote:A smoker pays more taxes than the non-smoker so if everyone stopped smoking, where is government going to get that lost revenue from?

marksiwel wrote:Does being around guns give you cancer? Just asking

jmra wrote:I have no problem with someone smoking on their private property. I do have a right not to have smoke blown in my face in a public place. And like someone else said it's the long term effects I'm worried about. Btw, the chain smoker wasn't stopped by our employer, he was stopped by the chain smoking. I hope you decide to stop before you suffer the same fate.