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It has run it's course.....

johnson0317 wrote:I would say that we are still full of love and kindness for mamabearcali. I think what is happening is that members are exercising their rights to agree with someone in one thread while not in another. It is not an attack on anyone. mamabearcali thinks that Texas law is too overboard, the others think it is not.

You can not compare her dropping her gun in a stall to this. It is really apples to oranges. She did not drop it on purpose, and it did not discharge. If it had, then yes, she would be facing charges...but it did not happen. We were all happy that she had a positive learning experience.

I can tell you, from personal experience, that I get along with pretty much everyone here; however, I have been called out more than once for something I wrote. I either see their point, or I don't. I certainly don't hold it against them for having a different point of view.

(and I am the first to get onto members for eating their own, just did it with the guy who tried to avoid property taxes.)

RJ

Don't Tread On Me: Wow, you win. Thanks for "calling me out". But wait, doesn't what you state actually come into consideration here?

Johnson, thank you for responding.

Remember, many on here responded HEARTILY with the ND vs. OD argument, and then moved on to the legality of it all.

Guys, my point is this....and I'm not responding to this anymore: Common sense has been thrown out the window in this world. In this scenario, we've got a good guy that qualified for a CHL. A terrible mistake was made, but fortunately no one was hurt. But we've got people here that want to take a man/father/husband and turn his life completely upside down (job loss, financial risk, etc) and report and prosecute him because of (no matter how much you disagree...with all your valor and training) an accident.

This is egregiously wrong.

This debate will never be resolved. Let me just say I would not report the guy, and if on the grand jury, I would not indict him. If on the jury, I'd be in his corner.

Peace.

Keith B, TAM, and Don't Tread on Me, may I ask a hypothetical question?

I ask that you answer this, and not respond with "you can't compare it this way". mamabearCali posted in the Never Again section about a belly band fail. viewtopic.php?f=26&t=46587" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Everyone was full of love, and suggestions, and kindness. Not one word that this was NEGLIGENT dropping of the weapon, vs. an accidental dropping of the weapon. Nor it becoming un-concealed (assuming it's a typical stall with 18" of open floor to stall space) and the need to call the cops and report and prosecute. What's different with that one vs this one if the law is the law?

Now, suppose, just SUPPOSE the gun went BANG. Would you have called for her prosecution?

My point in all this is, we're eating our own here. Granted, what happened was ENTIRELY bone-headed. But, this wasn't a crack addict waving a chrome Saturday night special around. Why is everyone so eager to run to the police and report this guy? What happened to "Crap, John just made a grave mistake. Thank GOD everyone is ok. Let's hope he/we learn from this, and we move on".

I get that what happened was technically a crime, but really.....we want add this one to the overcrowded dockets in the name of self-righteousness? REALLY?

Like someone else said, I sure don't want someone thinking this way on my jury. What happened to common sense?

Peace.

My .02 cents?

1) Be thankful no one was hurt
2) Use this as a life-lesson and LEARN from it.

Those of you chanting "off with his head" should be careful. This was an ACCIDENT. I've been on this earth almost 49 years, and have been handling guns at least 47 of those years. Without going into specifics, I too have experienced OH NO moments. Have enough guns, and handle enough guns, the law of averages plays against you.

Lastly, the police need to be chasing BAD guys. The courts need to be prosecuting BAD guys.

IMHO, this guy needs a good thump on his ear, and that's about it. He's probably way more upset about it than anyone else.

Those of you ready to turn him in? Do you speed? Not stop all the way when making a right on red? Not the same thing? Wait, who was it said "the law is the law". Yea, we can debate level of severity, but come on..... Let's not crucify someone that made an honest mistake.

Make sense?

Peace.