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by der Teufel
Fri Jan 09, 2015 9:01 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: CBS 11 just announced
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Re: CBS 11 just announced

gdanaher wrote:It's all opinion, but it seems that if a sign maker can get the text correct in both English and Spanish, it means that someone read the statute, and if they read the statute it means that they know the letters are to be an inch high. Text of a smaller size hints that perhaps the folks who ordered the sign are playing both sides of the fence.

Or quite possibly it means they delegated the responsibility for making and posting the sign to someone who didn't know and/or didn't care what they were doing. I can easily envision a conversation something like:

[Boss] I don't want people with guns coming in here. Make a sign that keeps them out. Here's the regs.
[Flunky] Uh, sure boss. Whatever you say! (Grumble) Of course, I still have my regular job to do in addition to this. I wonder how fast I can make these signs.
Hmmm, if I throw this wording onto a piece of paper, how hard can it be? (not reading ALL of the requirements) . . . or maybe not knowing how big an inch is. Tasteless male jokes start coming to mind so I'll quit now.

Remember Hanlon's Razor: Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence.
by der Teufel
Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:24 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: CBS 11 just announced
Replies: 40
Views: 7073

Re: CBS 11 just announced

The Annoyed Man wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:While it is true that neither MDA nor any other anti-gun organization has expressly stated that the campaign to repeal or gut TPC §30.06 is the result of OCT's irresponsible tactics, those are the facts. TPC §30.06 was not even on the anti-gun radar until OCT started carrying long guns into stores and restaurants. That gave MDA and the local Brady Bunch a focal point for their overall anti-gun agenda. Someone then saw Russell's http://www.Texas3006.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and they turned that resource into a plot to "ignore the wishes of property owners."

30.06 signs were not an issue because concealed-carry has not been an issue since 1997. OCT's scare tactics changed that and gave MDA and others a rallying cry.

Chas.

Exactly. I would add further that it is OK to be ignorant about the history of this right up until the moment that history has been laid out for your inspection, but it is NOT OK to continue to deny it once you know the history.
I appreciate the insight that you guys have offered. I admit that I'm not very politically astute regarding most things (office politics in particular stand out as a towering example), but I'm understanding a little more about what's going on as a result of this thread.
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by der Teufel
Thu Jan 08, 2015 11:44 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: CBS 11 just announced
Replies: 40
Views: 7073

Re: CBS 11 just announced

There was an article in the Austin paper just after Christmas about this, which specifically named MDA as the complaining party. I've included part of the article below:

"The Moms Demand Action members say some gun owners are “gaming” the system by ignoring a property owner’s wishes if the sign doesn’t fit literally the one-inch letter of the law or violates other specifics.

They showed me numerous screen shots listing establishments with allegedly illegal signs. The assumption, at least based on the Internet conversations, is that an armed customer can’t be convicted of criminal trespass if the sign isn’t technically correct.

“We saw it was being deliberately exploited by ‘law abiding’ gun owners,” Burke said. “From a mom’s perspective, if I’m at the hospital with my child and see a no guns sign, I shouldn’t have to worry that the mom next to me has a gun.”

Volunteers with Moms Demand Action have quietly begun warning businesses with signs that might not comply with the law.
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So, while I don't personally agree with OCT's actions, I don't know that they're the offending party in this instance. As noted above, MDA says they're specifically contacting businesses with incorrect signage, and they may very well be the ones stirring up this story in the news. I suspect the opinion writer at the Austin paper didn't stumble upon them all by himself.

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