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by rtschl
Wed Aug 19, 2015 3:01 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Notify a business owner of unenforceable signs?
Replies: 52
Views: 11771

Re: Notify a business owner of unenforceable signs?

Lildave40,

Appreciate the willingness to hear the other side. I too have looked down the barrel of a gun and it is not something you soon forget.

I'm assuming the law change for 1/1/2016 I think you are referring to only applies to government (state, county, city etc.). They can face fines for posting public property, but only after certain steps of notification are taken to give them a chance to take it down. That does not apply to private property. They can post anything anytime they want. The only enforceable sign a private property can post for a CHL holder is 30.06 and for OC is 30.07.

It does no one any good to notify a business that their sign does not apply to CHL holders. Most importantly It does no one any harm by NOT notifying a business.
by rtschl
Wed Aug 19, 2015 2:31 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Notify a business owner of unenforceable signs?
Replies: 52
Views: 11771

Re: Notify a business owner of unenforceable signs?

Kiddkop wrote:
I at 1st thought....nah, no need to say anything, but after reading some post and forming an opinion on something that I previously did not have an opinion I decided that the right thing to do is to discern the intent of business. This will allow them to

A) remove the sign
B) correct the sign
C) do nothing

Each of these serve a purpose for me based on my newly formed opinion. I can,


A) continue to carry and do business
B) not carry if I choose to do business
C) continue to carry and do business

I don't see a negative to notifying.
The negative is:
B) No CHL can carry because YOU decided to inform the business and they posted compliant 30.06 signage. Your action does not impact you only. It bans EVERY CHL from carrying in that business - because of YOUR actions.

Please feel free to honor gunbuster signs and not carry. I have no problem with that if you do, because it does not keep me or others from carrying. But why push to remove it for EVERYONE else? That is what so many of us here do not understand. OCT and Anti's we expect this from, but not from fellow CHL's.
by rtschl
Wed Aug 19, 2015 11:35 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Notify a business owner of unenforceable signs?
Replies: 52
Views: 11771

Re: Notify a business owner of unenforceable signs?

I didn't say anything about property owner rights. This issue is about those who go around telling businesses that their signage is non compliant.
by rtschl
Wed Aug 19, 2015 11:19 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Notify a business owner of unenforceable signs?
Replies: 52
Views: 11771

Re: Notify a business owner of unenforceable signs?

RJGold wrote::iagree: with what Abraham and pawpaw said...
:iagree: too.

There are businesses that post that I don't have an alternative to. Not notifying a business affects no one. By notifying a business, you have now put me and my family at risk if they decide to post a compliant sign. I wish I could live in the fairy tale world that only interacts with businesses that supports 2A/CHL. But that world does not exist. It will never exist.

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