The ownership of Liberty Safe since 2021 by a left leaning corporation that donates to anti 2A candidates and organizations is going to cost them more. Why would anyone supporting the Second Amendment give money to a company that will then turn and give a portion of your money to try and dismantle those rights. I do not recall the 2A community being aware of this two years ago.
The second issue, is that they need to give the option to not only have the master code removed from their records, but the the owner should get the master code before Liberty removes it from their records. Any and all codes should belong to the owner. I get the desire to be able to call the company if owner gets locked out of their safe or if a family is locked out when a loved one dies. But if the owner has the master as well as the one they created, that solves the problem - if it is saved somewhere safe (no pun intended).
I am glad they will now require a court order before complying as that is a step in the right direction. But their political donations would prohibit me from buying a safe from them.
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- Thu Sep 07, 2023 12:48 pm
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
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- Wed Sep 06, 2023 9:44 pm
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Re: Liberty Safe backdoor access
Liberty Safe just posted about 30 minutes ago to Twitter the following statement. They will give safe owners the ability to have the "backdoor" code erased from their records.
- Wed Sep 06, 2023 4:58 pm
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Re: Liberty Safe backdoor access
Secureit Gun Storage has come out with a statement. I don't think they sell fireproof/resistant safes, but more secured locker type design. Per their statement, there is no override built in.
- Wed Sep 06, 2023 12:01 pm
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Liberty Safe backdoor access
Liberty Safe posted this on Twitter yesterday and turned off replies as they are being roasted by 2A community and calling them the Bud Light of the 2A industry. Interesting if this destroys their business.
I would think that their policy could be that they as a company have to be served a warrant specifically ordering them to grant access to a specific safe before they would provide a back door code, not just notified of a search warrant of a property. But I'm not a lawyer and do not know if they could push back. I want to be fair to them if they had no choice.
Should safes have a backdoor code? Should buyers be able to disable it? It's a risk if you ever loose your code or the electronics die and have to be replaced.
I would think that their policy could be that they as a company have to be served a warrant specifically ordering them to grant access to a specific safe before they would provide a back door code, not just notified of a search warrant of a property. But I'm not a lawyer and do not know if they could push back. I want to be fair to them if they had no choice.
Should safes have a backdoor code? Should buyers be able to disable it? It's a risk if you ever loose your code or the electronics die and have to be replaced.