There. You've said it. You have said what I have been thinking a long time. I can't say 'thank you' because I don't like it...at all. However, this is not the same U.S. as it was 10, 15, 20, and certainly 30 years ago. We cannot think back to those times an hope and pray they will come back. They will not. Not with allllll the illegal immigration people flooding into the country. Not with allll the rising popularity in progressive liberalism that is polluting the Democratic Party. Not with the ineffective NICS checks, an certainly not what TAM so eloquently stated in the Ohio shooting thread. The lack of a Moral Compass that served our great Nation, since its inception, and that being the Holy Bible, is being diminished year after year, by the extreme leftists that we see is growing in Congress.ralewis wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 2:46 pmI'm as pro gun as they come (CHL/LTC for 15 years now), and I've been around here since 2005 reading, learning, and participating in discussions around 2A issues. That being said though, IMO it's important to realize the way things are not the way we want them to be. Social Media and 24/7 news create an amplification effect and has increased the speed issues become front and center. Having several of these mass shooting events over a few weeks in the middle of a Presidential Election cycle has created a wave bigger than we've seen IMO. Our elected officials respond to (perceptions of) public sentiment.Grayling813 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:48 pm Firearms Policy Coalition statement on red flag legislation:
https://www.firearmspolicy.org/fpc-stat ... mp-remarks
Excerpt:FPC has been and remains strongly opposed to so-called “red flag” laws, also known as “Gun Violence Restraining Order” (GVRO) or “Extreme Risk Protection Order” (ERPO) statutes.
FPC also remains strongly opposed to expanding federal criminal statutes, including but not limited to those mandating “universal background checks”.
These proposed laws do not increase access to mental healthcare or improve public safety. They rely on expanding federal powers through further abuse of the Commerce Clause and are unconstitutional, as well as dangerous.
The pragmatist in me sees the tea leaves here, and we all need to do our part to be vocal with our elected officials. We also need to accept the reality that we may be faced with situation where our best option is negotiating for something we want. For example, I'd probably take mandatory background checks and some very tightly scoped and defined "Red Flag" law as long as we got National Reciprocity and a recognition that LTC holders who willingly submit themselves for background checks are recognized as not the problem and have restrictions on where we can carry be reduced.
And I realize i'm going to get hammered here for uttering a scenario entertaining some policies because 'shall not infringe' means what it says. But in the real world we are subject to laws passed (even if the firmly believe they are unconstitutional) else we suffer great inconvenience. I'd actually love to see some constructive dialog on both sides coming at this from a risk management perspective vs a political one.
It is heartbreaking for me, as a citizen of the United States, to fall to such depths, by not only the politicians, but also the general public at large.
We have strayed to far from our roots that made this great nation, and served with honor....until this Godless generation, and all of the political fervor that that generation has embraced.
I'm just a simple country boy, who grew up in a family with a 'moral compass', and I thank God for that. I pray that that moral compass will re-emerge in the next generation and generations to follow.
Thank you ralewis for stating your opinion.