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wheelgun1958 wrote:There is NO need for civilian law enforcement to have APCs or automatic weapon toting ninjas.

Have you forgotten about the 2 bank robbers out in California about 10 years ago who had full body armor, full auto AK's, with steel core bullets? The police were totally impotent in trying to stop those thugs, for they had no rifles at all, nor did they have an APC to rescue the downed LEO's. Who's to say some radical criminals won't try it again? APC's? I have no prob. with the cops having them. Dallas has a couple, and have used them many times in their drug interdiction, fugitive arrest, and hostage rescue missions.

NOT allowing law enforcement having the tools they need to combat crime, is a crime unto itself, IMO.

stroo wrote:Frankly, a tool for crowd control seems more like a police tool than a military weapon. If it works, it is better than massed police with batons, tear gas or fire hoses.

I have much more problem with a sheriff's office buying APCs than I do this. Having said that, some sheriffs may have a valid reason to buy APCs as well.

I agree stroo. I wonder how many lives could have been saved during the Watt's race riots of 1965(34 people killed), or the Los Angeles riots of 1992(53 people killed, and $1 billion in damages), if they had those technologies back then?