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Keith B wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:07 pm

Syntyr wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:50 pm

03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:30 pm

philip964 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:16 pm https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9685741/w ... n-el-paso/

Being refered to as a gun nut.

It still doesn't mention his real intentions.

And there is the problem. Technically he did nothing wrong except maybe if the da wants to charge him with disturbing the peace or something similar. It’s a fine line between stupidity and criminality. I am REALLY surprised the guy didn’t wind up ventilated! If he had been I wouldn’t have lost sleep over societies loss to the greater good. Certainly not helping calm the situation any.

As to the question up post I am 99.9 percent sure I would have ran and gotten me and my family out of there.

The arrested him for making a terroristic threat, but as of yet has not been officially charged. Below is the lowest level charge:

574.125. Making a terrorist threat, third degree — penalty. — 1. A person commits the offense of making a terrorist threat in the third degree if he or she, with criminal negligence with regard to the risk of causing the evacuation, quarantine or closure of any portion of a building, inhabitable structure, place of assembly or facility of transportation, knowingly:

(1) Communicates an express or implied threat to cause an incident or condition involving danger to life; or

(2) Communicates a knowingly false report of an incident or condition involving danger to life; or

(3) Causes a false belief or fear that an incident has occurred or that a condition exists involving danger to life.

2. The offense of making a terrorist threat in the third degree is a class A misdemeanor.

3. No offense is committed under this section by a person acting in good faith with the purpose to prevent harm.

As for the guy drawing on him, the threat was perceived by the people in the store, and the manager evacuated the store by pulling the fire alarm. The off-duty firefighter had every reason to believe the threat was there and valid, and would be justified in threatening use of deadly force by drawing down on the guy.

How long ago was that written? That is so vague that it could apply to any snowflake hyperventilating at the sight of a MAGA hat. Never mind a legally carried firearm secure in its holster. Or an NRA shirt. Wow

I thought he was merely protesting walmart's stance on not selling guns to anyone under 21y.

So, young, dumb, bad timing, and making a point.

I wonder if the terrorist threat charge will stick.

My reaction is totally dependent on the situation.

In this case, since it looks like the guy might be some level of MHMR, probably if any family member were with me I would have told them to leave and call the police and let them know I was inside and what I was wearing and that I was an LTC. For me, my hearing aides are connected to my phone and I can talk on my phone while it is in my pocket. I would also call the police describing what was going on and that I was watching him until the police showed up and would act if he started shooting before they arrived.

I have a fair amount of experience with MHMR folks, but no formal or licensed training. If I don't think that is the issue I'll probably just go about my business, while covertly attempting to shadow and keep an eye on him. If it appears like just some fool making a point with no intent to actually harm anyone I'll just go about my business, but still be wary of him and out of his path.

If I'm aware of a person like this I'm not sure I could just leave the sheeple to fend for themselves knowing I might have been able to help. I know I would n't be legally responsible for leaving if anything did happen after I left, but morally? I'm not sure in my own head. That would be a tough thing to live with and while I probably could, well, IDK. I hope I never find out, but I'll cross that bridge if I ever get to that stream.

Probably just an idiot wanting to make a point. Which point, though, eludes me.