Ergonomics is the other huge difference between the two handguns you went from and to and the ergos between the 21, 21SF, and 22 are exactly the same with only the grip circumference and recoil being the differences. There's just no way around it, though, some folks don't shoot one or the other platform well because of ergonomics.Smokey613 wrote:I shot a model 21 years ago and it was really not an ergonomic pistol for me. The 22 is better but still too brick like. I have yet to shoot an SF frame but have doubt it would make a difference. I will admit to a 1911 bias, having carried one for most of my 30 years in LE. I also realize the new striker fired pistols are the way of the future but... that does not mean it has to be a Glock. I even looked into a company that reduces the Glock grip and makes is more 1911 like but that is way too much money.
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- Tue Nov 22, 2016 7:20 am
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- Mon Nov 21, 2016 11:15 am
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I will point out that you went from .40S&W to .45ACP. I had the same experience you did the very first day I shot my brand new 21SF after having my 22 for about 10 years. The .45 out shot the .40 easily. I point this out to say that your issue may not have been the platform, but rather the caliber. Many people find follow up shots with the .40 much more difficult than the .45 and 9mm.Smokey613 wrote:I have to say something further on the Shield 45. I am scheduled to go through a firearms instructor course to re-certify for my firearms instructor status with TCOLE. I had let it lapse and now the requirements have changed since I originally did it in 1988 at the DPS academy range, so I have to go through the new course. I have been practicing the courses of fire which includes semi-auto pistol, revolver, shotgun and patrol rifle. I originally planed to use my department issued Glock 22. After several attempts I kept missing the required 90% scoring at the 25 yard line by 1-2 points. I even tried using my wife's Gen 4 Glock 22, still no go. Friday I decided WTH I will give the Shield 45 a try. Smoked the course on the first try so..... guess I will be using the Shield 45 for the course. I am sure I will be the ONLY non Glock on the range those 4 - 10 hour days. A funny thing happened while we were there. We were using the S.O. range as it's nicer than the PD range and less crowded. One of the young S.O. Deputies showed up to shoot some new pistols. We got to talking, my wife works for the S.O., and he mentioned he had never even held a revolver let alone shot one. Well, I proceeded to correct that oversight in his firearms education and got out the S&W Model 19 4" nickel (pinned and recessed) along with the holster and speed loaders. I had to give him a short lesson on how a revolver functions. I loaded 6 38 spl rounds and let him have fun. He was impressed it shot as good as it did. Anyway, back to the subject.... it will be interesting shooting the semi-auto course with the Shield 45. My only issue will be keeping the mags loaded as the course is designed for high capacity firearms, but I have a game plan on that. I am getting extra mags and load them all up and just reload as needed. After the course my next goal is to get my boss to allow me to carry my Shield on duty or maybe an M&P 40. They just fit my hand much better than any Glock does.
- Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:53 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
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I've also heard good things about the XS Big Dot sights and might have chosen those if they also came with orange around the front sight. I liked the orange for daylight shooting.
- Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:18 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
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I have these sights on my 30SF and 21SF with the orange around the tritium. They've been great.Excaliber wrote:The Trijicon HD series with a U shaped rear notch and a huge colored circle surrounding the tritium lamp in the front sight is awesome. As you draw it and bring it up to eye level, that front sight just locks your eye onto it. It's on all my regularly carried guns now.txglock21 wrote:I bought one yesterday...can't wait to take it to the range. I'm already looking at night sights for it.dlh wrote:I finally decided on the Glock 30SF and am picking it up tomorrow!
Now I need to figure out the best personal defense ammo for it and a good holster---looking at both inside the waistband and outside the waistband holsters.
I picked the Glock 30SF because:
I already have a Glock 26 and am familiar with the platform, takedown, cleaning, etc.
I really wanted at least a 10 round magazine.
The 230 grain hollow-point is well-known for its effective stopping power.
Thanks for all the ideas folks! As time goes on and money permits I will certainly seriously look at the other suggested handguns too!
- Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:47 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
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The 30SF is a great, big little gun. I carried one for a few years and still have it. My BIL has a Shield .45 and it is also very nice. His Shield is a little thinner and easier to conceal, but at the expense of rounds. The advantage the 30SF has over the Shield is rounds and compatibility with larger mags. When I carried it I still carried two 13 round mags as spares. That, AFAIK, is not an option for the Shield.
The only reason I don't still still carry my 30SF is because, after shooting a few night matches, came to the undeniable conclusion that I shoot better in low or now light situations with a mounted light rather than a hand held flashlight in the opposite hand. Therefore, I needed a holster that would also hold a mounted light. The only holster I could find that I liked was a Safariland 7TS and they do not even make one for a 30 yet with or without a light. So, I've been carrying my 21SF with TLR-1 mounted since the holster arrived in May. If and when Safariland makes one for the 30 I'll have to decide whether or not to get it with or without a light. At this time, I'm not sure which way I'll go.
The only reason I don't still still carry my 30SF is because, after shooting a few night matches, came to the undeniable conclusion that I shoot better in low or now light situations with a mounted light rather than a hand held flashlight in the opposite hand. Therefore, I needed a holster that would also hold a mounted light. The only holster I could find that I liked was a Safariland 7TS and they do not even make one for a 30 yet with or without a light. So, I've been carrying my 21SF with TLR-1 mounted since the holster arrived in May. If and when Safariland makes one for the 30 I'll have to decide whether or not to get it with or without a light. At this time, I'm not sure which way I'll go.