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by C-dub
Sun Jan 10, 2016 9:15 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Open carry: negative ramifications
Replies: 39
Views: 11508

Re: Open carry: negative ramifications

tiger1279 wrote:
jed wrote:
C-dub wrote: ...The public is receiving much more education about the laws this go around and due to OC are paying far more attention...
This was my biggest issue with OC. In the coming weeks or months we will see 30.06 signs popping up at places that may not even had a gunbuster sign before. I have no dog in the 30.07 fight, for I will not be OCing. But thanks to the OCers, we CCers will be barred from more places. :banghead:
I'm seeing this happen daily. I have been paying attention to the 30.06 site (I get the daily notifications) and it's disturbing how often I see a 30.06 sign being posted along with the 30.07 sign. I too only CC so the 30.07 sign doesn't upset me that much; but when I see the 30.06 sign being posted as well then I feel my rights are under attack. I admit that I am surprised at how strong the backlash has been by merchants and property owners. :confused5
The "daily notifications" didn't used to be daily. I used to see about one or two every 1-3 weeks at the most in the five cities I've chosen to monitor. Now it's more like 5-6 per day. :grumble
by C-dub
Wed Dec 30, 2015 12:19 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Open carry: negative ramifications
Replies: 39
Views: 11508

Re: Open carry: negative ramifications

I'm starting to get more notifications from texas3006.com about places putting up 30.06 and or 30.07 signs. One was even for a gas station that put up both. I've never seen a gas station with a 30.06 sign before, but apparently there's one now.

Thanks OCT and OCTC!
by C-dub
Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:21 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Open carry: negative ramifications
Replies: 39
Views: 11508

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ScottDLS wrote:A licensee carrying a gun in his car is not carrying "under the authority" of his LTC, therefore 30.06 does not apply, as it does not apply to a non-licensee. The 30.06 statute is very specific that offense occurs while carrying "under the authority" of LTC. And even 30.05 has a defense for a person who HAS a LTC and is being excluded for carrying a handgun.
There you go.

Thanks Scott. You beat me to it by a few minutes, but I just got home from work and turned the computer on only a few minutes ago. :tiphat:
by C-dub
Tue Dec 29, 2015 12:37 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Open carry: negative ramifications
Replies: 39
Views: 11508

Re: Open carry: negative ramifications

austinborderline wrote:
30.06 is not applicable to anyone in a vehicle whether they have a CHL or not. Theoretically a 30.07 sign WILL be enforceable even if you're in a vehicle, and will be a class C until you're told to leave.
Looking at the revised statute, it appears that "concealed" is never defined (they struck the definition). Were I a business wishing to keep all handguns off property, including parking lots, I'd argue that posting both 30.06 and 30.07 at every parking lot entrance prohibits non-employees from entering the parking lot with a handgun. In fact, a gun in the glove box, in a holster under a jacket, even in the trunk would seem to be concealed.

Such businesses probably wouldn't want anyone carrying concealed or open outside of their cars, either in their parking lots or elsewhere on their grounds, either, so they'd necessarily need to post the signage at the entrances to the parking lot.
Welcome to the forum.

A 30.06 or 30.07 sign will be meaningless to a person without a CHL or LTC that has a concealed handgun in their vehicle in accordance with the MPA that enters a parking lot with either a 30.06 or 30.07 sign posted at any or all entrances. A person with a handgun in their vehicle under the authority of the MPA does not have to inform an officer that they have it and it must be concealed.
by C-dub
Sun Dec 20, 2015 10:01 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Open carry: negative ramifications
Replies: 39
Views: 11508

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longhorn86 wrote:
C-dub wrote:
The public is receiving much more education about the laws this go around and due to OC are paying far more attention.
Thanks CJ :banghead:
I wasn't necessarily referring to OCT or OCTC, but rather the new law itself since it has been getting a lot of coverage in the news. It is a big change. Being out of sight for so long, many people have absolutely no idea how many people around them during their daily routine are legally armed. They still won't know, but it will no longer be "out of sight, out of mind."
by C-dub
Sun Dec 20, 2015 9:53 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Open carry: negative ramifications
Replies: 39
Views: 11508

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A friend of mine at my former employer's has informed me that they have ordered both 30.06 and 30.07 signs. There have been none posted for the entire existence of the CHL law. My current employer already has compliant 30.06 signs at every entrance. I would be surprised if they do not also post 30.07 signs very soon and new 30.06 signs with the new verbiage. Oh well, such is the nature of my profession that is run by hypocritical liberals. No, I'm not in education, so I can still have it in the car in the parking lot. Small consolation, but it's something.

The public is receiving much more education about the laws this go around and due to OC are paying far more attention.

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