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by C-dub
Mon Apr 27, 2015 6:59 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Discharged "under honorable conditions" = not "honorably"
Replies: 193
Views: 49568

Re: Discharged "under honorable conditions" = not "honorably

loren wrote:Has anyone noticed unexplained deletions of postings in any thread at this forum?
Please send me a private email if you have. What I've noticed was probably just a "glitch" but if it seems to be happening somehow it should be reported.

Could be even my imagination or operator error but I edited the first post of this thread and part of that edit is shown but a paragraph is missing. Strange.

Thanks.
Sometimes it's all of the above and then sometimes a post is so inflammatory that mods may delete it all together. In the later, however, there is often or usually a notification. I have thought I posted something, but due to a glitch in my wireless router connection there have occasionally been times where the transaction wasn't completed. It's usually no big deal and I just redo it and or forget about it.
by C-dub
Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:43 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Discharged "under honorable conditions" = not "honorably"
Replies: 193
Views: 49568

Re: Discharged "under honorable conditions" = not "honorably

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by C-dub
Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:59 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Discharged "under honorable conditions" = not "honorably"
Replies: 193
Views: 49568

Re: Discharged "under honorable conditions" = not "honorably

loren wrote:In addition to confirmation from the American Legion and the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs, I just received this email response from the VFW:
"If the veteran in question has served at least 30 consecutive or 60 nonconsecutive days in Korea, or if they were awarded the Korea Service Medal or the Korean Defense Service Medal, they are eligible for membership in the VFW. A discharge of “General (Under Honorable Conditions)” meets the VFW’s requirement for honorable service."

In VFW's website description of eligibility for membership, it says:
"Assuming that a person is a United States citizen or United States national and has an honorable discharge from the U.S. armed forces, it only remains to be proven that the person has earned a recognized campaign medal or badge; served in Korea between June 30, 1949, until present; or earned Hostile Fire or Imminent Danger Pay eligibility."

Note that when VFW uses the term "honorable discharge" (as opposed to Honorable Discharge) it means to include General (Under Honorable Conditions).

Hope this helps with better understanding the term. Tell your friends!
We've either reached this point or are very close.

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by C-dub
Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:24 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Discharged "under honorable conditions" = not "honorably"
Replies: 193
Views: 49568

Re: Discharged "under honorable conditions" = not "honorably

Has the OP enlightened us as to why his discharge was general: under honorable conditions yet rather than honorable?
by C-dub
Sat Mar 28, 2015 8:45 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Discharged "under honorable conditions" = not "honorably"
Replies: 193
Views: 49568

Re: Discharged "under honorable conditions" = not "honorably

mojo84 wrote:I'm only going off what I read. He could speak and see if he can get them to upgrade his discharge classification.
Since he has chosen to not describe why his discharge was that way, I'm inclined to lean in your direction on this, but I didn't read it that way at first.
by C-dub
Sat Mar 28, 2015 8:06 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Discharged "under honorable conditions" = not "honorably"
Replies: 193
Views: 49568

Re: Discharged "under honorable conditions" = not "honorably

mojo84 wrote:
C-dub wrote:
mojo84 wrote:Sorry you didn't get the exact response for which you were looking. It appears to me you received a less than honorable discharge since it says "under". I think they intend the term under to indicate less than honorable. I don't recall anyone saying you can't or shouldn't discuss it here. I was curious what the DPS said since they are the ones in charge of interpreting the law, managing the program and issuing the licenses. None of us have the authority to set them straight as you seem to wish.

Sorry you got a lower level discharge than honorable discharge. That is between you and the military.
I don't think that is what the intended use of the word "under" is when used like this.

Really? There have been several weeks indicating so. The city that wrote the Sentinel article is an attorney.
I thought it was more like the following.

"He did the best he could under the circumstances."

Maybe he did something minor wrong and maybe he didn't, like ScooterSissy. Isn't there a minimum time served required to obtain an honorable discharge.
by C-dub
Sat Mar 28, 2015 7:43 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Discharged "under honorable conditions" = not "honorably"
Replies: 193
Views: 49568

Re: Discharged "under honorable conditions" = not "honorably

mojo84 wrote:Sorry you didn't get the exact response for which you were looking. It appears to me you received a less than honorable discharge since it says "under". I think they intend the term under to indicate less than honorable. I don't recall anyone saying you can't or shouldn't discuss it here. I was curious what the DPS said since they are the ones in charge of interpreting the law, managing the program and issuing the licenses. None of us have the authority to set them straight as you seem to wish.

Sorry you got a lower level discharge than honorable discharge. That is between you and the military.
I don't think that is what the intended use of the word "under" is when used like this.
by C-dub
Sat Mar 28, 2015 8:23 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Discharged "under honorable conditions" = not "honorably"
Replies: 193
Views: 49568

Re: Discharged "under honorable conditions" = not "honorably

I knew many people when I was in the Navy that received discharges other than honorable. Some were simply because they just couldn't manage to stay out of trouble. Nothing major, but they just couldn't. Most were just young and didn't know what to do with all that money and sitting around the barracks most of the time. Or whenever we hit port after being at sea for a while couldn't control themselves. Anyway, sorry to hear about your situation. However, depending on your circumstances you may be able to change your discharge status. I found this. You can apply to have your discharge upgraded.

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How to Upgrade a Military Discharge
In some situations, you may be eligible to apply to have your military discharge upgraded to a higher rating. However, despite, the rumors, there is no automatic upgrade process. You must apply to have your discharge upgraded by downloading DD Form 293 –Application for the Review of Discharge or Dismissal from the Armed Forces of the United States. You must then submit the form to the Discharge Review Board within 15 years of your discharge. If your discharge was more than 15 years ago, you must request a change to your military records. Here is more information about military discharge upgrades. It is a complicated process, and one that is often best done with the help of legal assistance.

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