It did for the Aurora theater shooter. IIRC, he has stated that he chose that theater because it had a "no guns " sign and other theaters closer to him did not.RoyGBiv wrote:Serious question...NOMW wrote:They have posted signs that sends a message..."Not on My Watch"
Should we expect this sign to have any effect on the kind of people who would do harm to our kids?
Is this going to dissuade a mentally ill person from shooting?
or... does it simply provide warning to those who are planning harm?
I certainly like the sentiment, but I find myself wondering whether the net results are a plus or minus.
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- Wed Feb 05, 2014 10:15 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Argyle ISD School Employee Carry
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- Tue Feb 04, 2014 4:58 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Argyle ISD School Employee Carry
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Re: Argyle ISD School Employee Carry
I suspect the background check done for employment as a teacher might not be as comprehensive as one they will want to allow individuals to carry guns. I also suspect that no psych eval has been performed at all so far as a condition of employment.chasfm11 wrote:I thought that one of the ideas behind the Argyle plan was to use some existing school personnel as marshals as opposed to hiring external ones. If that is the case, I'm assuming and hoping that the background checks and evaluations that are already done for district employees could be used toward confirming suitability. I'd hate to think that it is necessary to start over completely when considering someone to carry in a school. I do understand and accept that additional training is needed and should be required. My point is if a completely new analysis is needed for them to carry a gun in a school, maybe they shouldn't have been a school employee to begin with. Please don't jump on me because an LEO has to deal with life or death situations. I just don't believe that we should have people who would fail a psych evaluation working around kids. And I'm not suggesting that we do have that situation today.
- Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:15 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Argyle ISD School Employee Carry
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Thanks Steve. I thought I had read that somewhere, although, I'm still not sure where.
It does seem unfair, but I understand why. LEOs do get more training for their job and generally go through a more rigorous weeding out process that those getting a CHL do not. And, for some reason, most people don't look at LEOs as being people like anyone else. So, maybe this was one of those things that was needed to get it accepted and may be dropped at some point or, like you say, is not a real psych evaluation and so maybe it isn't that big a deal.
It does seem unfair, but I understand why. LEOs do get more training for their job and generally go through a more rigorous weeding out process that those getting a CHL do not. And, for some reason, most people don't look at LEOs as being people like anyone else. So, maybe this was one of those things that was needed to get it accepted and may be dropped at some point or, like you say, is not a real psych evaluation and so maybe it isn't that big a deal.
- Sat Feb 01, 2014 1:44 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Argyle ISD School Employee Carry
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I may have been mistaken because I can't find it now, but I thought I read where the school employees that would be carrying would have to undergo periodic psych evals to maintain there status just like other training. That only made me wonder how often LEOs submit to periodic psych evals.
- Sat Feb 01, 2014 7:25 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Argyle ISD School Employee Carry
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I understand that the psych eval was necessary for this to be approved by the sheeple and isn't a terrible idea anyway. However, I'm curious to know how often police officers undergo a psych eval.