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PArrow wrote:I'll give you the on or about your person, but if the gun is in the center console of your car and you are standing at the back bumper I don't believe it's "on or about your person. About would imply within easy reach.

srothstein wrote:

steveincowtown wrote:If an LEO wants to arrest me for failing to signal, I hope he doesn't mind my laughter on the ride, the Judges laughter in court, or his peer's laughter for the next few days at work.

Grow up and don't waste your time, the courts time, or my time. Focus. Find criminals. De-poof chest.

I will be fairly happy to put up with your laughter since you will also have to put up with mine. The judge won't be laughing and neither will my peers. Just so you know, this has already been done and fought all the way to SCOTUS. In the case of Atwater v. City of Lago Vista, an officer arrested a woman for failing to have her children in a seat belt and booked her into the jail. Atwater was released on bond and later paid the $50 fine for the ticket. She then filed a civil rights lawsuit against the officer and the city claiming that arresting a person for an offense that is punishable only by a fine is an unreasonable seizure under the Fourth Amendment. District Court dismissed the case on summary judgment in favor of the city. Fifth Circuit affirmed that the case had no merit. SCOTUS said it had no merit also.

bronco78 wrote:

C-dub wrote:

gigag04 wrote:

WildBill wrote:

benenglishtx wrote:Surely I'm not the only one to utilize this strategy, am I?

Probably.

I can keep a straight face while taking someone to jail for failing to signal continuously within 100 ft of turning.

Really, that's a jailable offense?

In Texas, Class C charges are all criminal acts. There are a couple of exceptions where arrests are not allowed such as speeding.\.. but failing to signal a turn IS one of the arrest-able ones.

gigag04 wrote:

WildBill wrote:

benenglishtx wrote:Surely I'm not the only one to utilize this strategy, am I?

Probably.

I can keep a straight face while taking someone to jail for failing to signal continuously within 100 ft of turning.

SewTexas wrote:minor fender bender = major apb??? really???

AustinBoy wrote:Heres my story. No guns involved.

In my mid-twenties I drove a 1981 Bamboo Biege Porsche 911.

I was pulled over by DPS. I immediately got out of the car and went back to shake his hand. (you could do that back then)

He shook my hand and asked me to stand in front of his car. I asked what I had done and he said he just had some questions. He then proceeded to grill me. Was this my car? Do I let anyone drive it? Where do I work? The questions went on and on.

Finally, he loosened up a little and became more friendly. He proceeded to tell me that there had been a hit and run. The person that ran drove a yellow Porsche. I laughed and said mine is an ugly Bamboo Biege! He said it was close enough to pull me over.

He was very proffessional and nice.

Point being, yes, it may have been a fishing expedition but he just didnt tell you what he was fishing for.

AB

tornado wrote:Not to hijack the thread, but to get it back to a discussion of a previously mentioned odd stop...

srothstein wrote: If you do lock the car and the officer asks for the keys, clearly state that you do not give consent for the search and are handing him the keys simply to obey his orders. Anything else would come under that caution about not arguing with officers on the side of the street.