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- Mon Aug 20, 2012 6:45 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: 30. 06 Signe at the wor place!
- Replies: 48
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Re: 30. 06 Signe at the wor place!
Thanks for the reminder Skiprr. I woke up around 0400 this morning and remembered that I forgot who JT69's employer was and relized that they probably couldn't even post an enforceable 30.06 sign anywhere on their property.
- Sun Aug 19, 2012 6:29 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: 30. 06 Signe at the wor place!
- Replies: 48
- Views: 6688
Re: 30. 06 Signe at the wor place!
I think you would because they would be violating the law. However, I am not a lawyer and there is no case law on this yet. My own employer has not changed their own policy, so I don't know what they would do if they somehow found a gun in someone's car.JT69 wrote:ok that sounds fairly clear. i dont mind leaving in the car while at work just to be able to have it with me before and after!!! but if they were to serch car and did find a gun and they did fire you for it... would you have recource against theme for wrongful termination? are do they have that right? I no im asking way to many ???? lol
Just remember, as others have mentioned, in Texas you can be fired for no reason. If they give you a reason, it cannot be something protected by law. It depends on how smart they are about it. My employer is very conscientious about when they terminate someone and meticulously document the reasons why. They have not, to my knowledge, let anyone go without a well documented reason. However, if they do, for some reason, discover your gun in your car and you are fired I would be surprised if they say that's why they fired you.
As they say, it's up to you as to whether or not you want to accept that risk. I have at my job and in the 10+ years I've been there they have not searched one vehicle.
- Sun Aug 19, 2012 4:48 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: 30. 06 Signe at the wor place!
- Replies: 48
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Re: 30. 06 Signe at the wor place!
This is getting pretty muddled up.
JT69, YOU can keep your handgun in your vehicle in your employers parking lot. Since they have posted the parking lot you can't get out of your vehicle with your gun on their property. What I'm not certain about is if your employer can also prevent you from carrying your gun while at work, but not on their property, to the point where they could prosecute you. What do you all think?
I think that if they notify you via something like the employee handbook or some other way with the correct 30.06 wording or someone with apparent authority tells you that you cannot carry while at work then they can prosecute you if discovered. If you are not told and any other notice without the correct 30.06 wording then they cannot prosecute you, but they can fire you for violating company policy.
If your employer does not have a policy and you have not been told you cannot carry at work, then I recommend that you carry if you wish, but do not speak to any coworker about it at all.
Other than the one point of uncertainty, I think that about covers it. Did I leave anything out?
JT69, YOU can keep your handgun in your vehicle in your employers parking lot. Since they have posted the parking lot you can't get out of your vehicle with your gun on their property. What I'm not certain about is if your employer can also prevent you from carrying your gun while at work, but not on their property, to the point where they could prosecute you. What do you all think?
I think that if they notify you via something like the employee handbook or some other way with the correct 30.06 wording or someone with apparent authority tells you that you cannot carry while at work then they can prosecute you if discovered. If you are not told and any other notice without the correct 30.06 wording then they cannot prosecute you, but they can fire you for violating company policy.
If your employer does not have a policy and you have not been told you cannot carry at work, then I recommend that you carry if you wish, but do not speak to any coworker about it at all.
Other than the one point of uncertainty, I think that about covers it. Did I leave anything out?
- Sat Aug 18, 2012 8:24 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: 30. 06 Signe at the wor place!
- Replies: 48
- Views: 6688
Re: 30. 06 Signe at the wor place!
Either way is fine. I just type slow and there were two more replies that answered parts of what I answered while I was typing.JT69 wrote:My work place is a city yard!! Street , water works for utility repairs water & sewer, streets,,
And is it ok to keep replying back an forth on a topic ?? Like I'm doing ! Are do we have to private message back an forth!
- Sat Aug 18, 2012 8:18 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: 30. 06 Signe at the wor place!
- Replies: 48
- Views: 6688
Re: 30. 06 Signe at the wor place!
I think, IIRC, from discussions on this issue when the parking lot law became effective, that such a sign would be ineffective for employees, but would apply to non-employees of a company that posted like this. However, there was also quite discussion as to whether or not it only applied then if one were to exit their vehicle and be carrying under their CHL. What I mean is that someone with a gun in their vehicle under the MPA might not be affected by this because 30.06 only applies to someone carrying under the authority of a CHL.
When it comes to your level of clarity on this subject, you are not alone. My company, that is "my employer", has not changed one word of their policy regarding weapons on their property and even other parking lots that do not belong to them. I understand that many companies are also waiting to see what, if anything, happens in court regarding this issue since there is no penalty for not complying with our almost 1-year old law.
When it comes to your level of clarity on this subject, you are not alone. My company, that is "my employer", has not changed one word of their policy regarding weapons on their property and even other parking lots that do not belong to them. I understand that many companies are also waiting to see what, if anything, happens in court regarding this issue since there is no penalty for not complying with our almost 1-year old law.