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Jumping Frog wrote:

C-dub wrote:

Jumping Frog wrote:There is a guy on a different forum who recounted his experience the first time he was in combat as this:

charliej47 wrote:I can remember being in a firefight and I fired off my entire basic load during the fight and do not even remember reloading. I can remember the Sargent yelling "they are on the wire" and then I remember him asking me if I needed more ammo. All that happened in between is a blur.

So I can easily see where someone doesn't really know what they are doing until the gun stops going "BANG".

I can totally agree with this, but the guy was outside, came back in, locked the door, walked over to the now helpless BG, stood over him and emptied the gun into him.

The news reports said the video shown at trial had 20 seconds between first shot and last shot fired.

The clerk didn't create the problem. Reports of people being unable to remember how many rounds they shot are absolutely commonplace, to the point that it becomes one of the things we are all warned to not talk about it immediately after a shooting. I'd give him the benefit of the doubt.

Yeah,but what was the time between the first and second or second and third? He shot him once or twice and incapacitated the BG. Then he chased his partner outside before coming back in to unload the gun into the BG lying on the floor in the remaining 2-3 seconds. If he had put all those rounds in him from the start in a semi-continuous manner I would understand that. However, he stopped, walked away, returned, and started shooting again while standing over him. Those two things are my biggest problem and I view them as two separate shootings. One was self defense and the other was murder, IMO. The other problem I have is because the BG was now helpless on the floor and the clerk had his gun. Maybe there is more testimony that I am unaware of and the BG had another gun or a knife or was telling the clerk that if he lives he will come back and kill him and his wife and kids. IDK

Jumping Frog wrote:There is a guy on a different forum who recounted his experience the first time he was in combat as this:

charliej47 wrote:I can remember being in a firefight and I fired off my entire basic load during the fight and do not even remember reloading. I can remember the Sargent yelling "they are on the wire" and then I remember him asking me if I needed more ammo. All that happened in between is a blur.

So I can easily see where someone doesn't really know what they are doing until the gun stops going "BANG".

I can totally agree with this, but the guy was outside, came back in, locked the door, walked over to the now helpless BG, stood over him and emptied the gun into him.

tornado wrote:A DPS friend of mine has told me that after the BG is down, I should put two more rounds in his head. While that would be making sure the threat is stopped, it seems we're rolling the dice with juries.

Many of them also used to tell people that if you shoot someone as they're running out your door be sure to either drag them back inside or throw your television on the ground next to them. Neither of those options was ever good advice.

Had I been on that jury and seen that video, without any other really compelling evidence to the contrary, I would have found that guy guilty. I really am shocked he was acquitted.

Yeah,the BG was bad, but after watching that video I don't know how that clerk didn't get convicted. This is very much like the OKC pharmacy thing. He came back in side and stood over the guy shooting him multiple times. This guy put even more rounds into the defenseless BG than the pharmacist did.