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sjfcontrol wrote:

C-dub wrote:Exactly everyone. It is subjective and the effects of it are all over the spectrum from barely there to debilitating. What was called "shell shock" could now be classified as PTSD. It does exist and PTSD is just what it is called now.

Just like "Global Warming".

bronco78 wrote:

pcgizzmo wrote: Our NCO's lead us to believe it happened to some coming out of basic and then the fear of war with out actually being in war. I have never seen or heard of anything like it since but from what I remember them saying it happened on occasion when some recruits got to their duty stations.

Your NCO's should have stuck with educating you on things they were qualified to discuss.
Though there are some Docs that would agree with such nonsense, so I guess, it’s not black and white as I would like it to be.
I stand fast in my personal observations and opinion.. The term PTSD is over used, used as an excuse often, diagnosed against people who have not experienced traumatic events relatively when compared to a LEO, first responder, or Military member who sees, kills, wounds, picks up dead blown up, burned, friends, enemy’s alike.

wharvey wrote:Old thread but I haven't seen mention of the results of the trial on this forum. After the prosecution, although I think persecution would be the proper term to use, presented their case the defense make a motion to dismiss the charge and the judge agreed.

JJVP wrote:

Dragonfighter wrote:Ah, just following their example. " onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Man, they are more advanced in OH regarding CCW than here in TX. According to Mr. Schulman you can carry in universities, schools and bars.

speedsix wrote:...his lawyer said he tried three times...and the audio's not clear enough for us to be sure what was said...I believe him...we may never know 'cause the case'll be thrown out...unless the city attorney refuses to do so because it would be seen as an admission that the cops were all wrong...that won't help 'em in the suit...but if the charge is left in place...it'll give him a bigger hammer to hit them with...we're gonna have to salt our popcorn and wait on this one...the chances of it being settled by the year's end are kinda slim...

flintknapper wrote:

C-dub wrote:Just watched the entire video. I couldn't defend these two officers even if I wanted to and I don't want to.

However, at about 1:35 when the bigger jerk approaches the car the victim does not attempt to notify him then. When the other officer is inside the car I can't hear what is said and the flashlight is only briefly shined in the victims face. I don't actually hear the victim being interrupted and prevented from telling them he has a concealed carry permit until just before they get him out of the car. Meanwhile, he keeps saying he's never done this before instead of telling them he has a concealed carry permit. He speaks plenty before he is interrupted, but doesn't say what is important.

Just for arguments sake...lets say it was a clear cut case of failure to notify.

Does that justify the tirade the officer displayed? The threats of physical harm to the alleged prostitute, the threat to "execute" the driver, the abundance of profanity!

I couldn't care less what the supposed offense was/is....it is the handling of the situation (by BOTH officers) that is unacceptable!