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ScottDLS wrote:

C-dub wrote: I knew I had to be misreading something. However, couldn't a school post an enforceable 30.06 sign? I remember hearing or reading that in order for a school to keep a CHL holder from leaving their weapon in their vehicle they would have to post one somewhere in the parking lot. Is this not true and the parking lot cannot be posted legally?

BTW, thanks for the picture of the red 51% sign. I have not seen one before, but that's what I thought it should look like.

Only if they are a private (non-government owned) school, not your local ISD or state college.

Good to know. I hadn't considered it being government property before.

chabouk wrote:You got it right, C-Dub, you just didn't follow how I was saying it. My fault.

- The campus buildings are off limits by statute because they're school "premises" (as defined in the statutes).
- The 30.06 signs on those buildings are legally meaningless, because it's government property.
- The 30.06 signs Keith B mentioned at Plano school parking lots are also legally meaningless because it's government property, and those parking lots are not off limits as schools, because they're not buildings.

I knew I had to be misreading something. However, couldn't a school post an enforceable 30.06 sign? I remember hearing or reading that in order for a school to keep a CHL holder from leaving their weapon in their vehicle they would have to post one somewhere in the parking lot. Is this not true and the parking lot cannot be posted legally?

BTW, thanks for the picture of the red 51% sign. I have not seen one before, but that's what I thought it should look like.

And that's why I was confused by those two statements.

3dfxMM wrote:I believe he meant that the 30.06 signs were invalid at both UT and the Plano school parking lots because they are government properties.

That's what it sounded like, but it doesn't make sense. Government property, unless it is federal, is specifically not off limits. The premises of a building if there is a court or government meeting taking place is off limits, but the property itself is not. I'm certain I could be leaving out some details of certain situations. However, it's been noted many times before that a CHL holder may carry in a school parking lot or leave their weapon in their vehicle to go inside or pick their kid up. I don't recall reading anywhere that states a school parking lot is unable to be posted with a 30.06 sign.

Keith B wrote:

chabouk wrote: That's funny, carry in the buildings is illegal by statute, but the 30.06 notices are meaningless, since they're government buildings.

Yeah, same thing at Plano schools. Some of them have 30.06 signs on the doors too. However, all of their parking lots are posted with legal sized, but invalidly posted signs.

Wait a minute.

Colleges are off limits because they are government buildings? This doesn't sound right. I thought they were off limits because they are a school. If it were a government building thing, wouldn't there have to be a government meeting taking place? I don't think a class counts as a government meeting.

And what about the parking lot signs makes them invalidly posted? Parking lots can be posted and you said they are of valid size. Is the wording incorrect?