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lol. well. I feel smarter now and I didn't either...

txinvestigator wrote:

Hickeroar wrote:I think ya misread my post. The hopsital my mother in law works at is NOT posted.

However, what the instructor told us is that the 51 sign has two uses. One is at the bars etc with 51% or more of income coming from alcohol. The other being at hospitals and in that case they wouldnt be required to put the 51% in big red letters behind the text. It would just mirror the text and for all hospitals this sign was "implied" even though it wasn't posted.

I have NO idea what that means. There is NO 51% for anything other than places that sell alcohol for on-premises consumption.

Either you did not understand your instructor or he had no idea what he was talking about.

If a hospital is posted 30.06 you cannot carry. If it has anything else, including a 51% sign, you CAN carry. Nothing is "implied".

Hmmm. I think he was mistaken about the law regarding hospitals... I didnt find anything in the lawbook that jived with what he said though...so yeah it sounds like it.

So for the unofficial record: there's no problem with me carrying in hospitals if they're unposted...

I think ya misread my post. The hopsital my mother in law works at is NOT posted.

However, what the instructor told us is that the 51 sign has two uses. One is at the bars etc with 51% or more of income coming from alcohol. The other being at hospitals and in that case they wouldnt be required to put the 51% in big red letters behind the text. It would just mirror the text and for all hospitals this sign was "implied" even though it wasn't posted.

Is this bull hockey or something?

Also, if it IS bull, is it technically legal to carry in a hospital that doesn't have the 30.06 signs posted? Thanks for any help you can give!

Well, per the instructor in my course, it's kind-of a catch-22 situation. He said it was a felony under the "51" rule until they said that you were allowed to if it didn't have a 30.06 sign.

He said the "51%" sign-wording is displayed and implied when not displayed in hospitals and that it's a felony to go against it.

He said the problem is that the felony trumps the 30.06 decision (in his words) so you can take the risk if you want to (if there's no 30.06 on the hosp door) but if you get caught they can try you at a federal level and skip the state altogether.

In short: he said that breaking the "51" is a felony, breaking the 30.06 is a misdemeanor and we're supposed to be aware that entering a hospital breaks the 51 even if the 51 sign is not posted.

He also said there haven't as-of-yet been any court cases regarding this so no one knows what would happen for sure.


If I or He is in error, i'd like to know it. The hospital where my mother-in-law works is not 30.06 posted...

Kalrog wrote:

Hickeroar wrote:I wouldn't go into any business that had a 30.06 even if their lettering was wrong... Well, on top of that, a 30.06 is basically a sign that says to me "don't give this place one more of your dimes." Carrying or not carrying i'm not going in there.

Agreed when possible. Not always possible though (think hospital).

Well, it's a felony to carry in most (if not all) hospitals anyway so there's nothing you can do about that. The hospital owner had nothing to do with that decision.

Cool cool. Thanks for the info. I wouldn't go into any business that had a 30.06 even if their lettering was wrong... Well, on top of that, a 30.06 is basically a sign that says to me "don't give this place one more of your dimes." Carrying or not carrying i'm not going in there.

If i go somewhere and their 30.06 sign has lettering that is 7/8 of an inch high, would this hold up in court as non-compliant or would the judge say "close enough?"