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by dicion
Sun Feb 14, 2010 5:09 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: First aid ,CPR after shooting?
Replies: 45
Views: 6079

Re: First aid ,CPR after shooting?

hheremtp wrote: While the law may not require medical personnel to render aid; the licensing agency may look at things totally differently when it comes to the obligation to fulfill ones duties as a medical professional. It may seem cut and dry for the non medical professionals, "that guy attacked me, why should I help save him?" but it becomes a real grey area when it comes to us medical professionals.

Well, if that's the case, I would say, "Better to be judged by <Insert # of people on the board>, than carried by 6."

I still do not believe that would be true. As said above, security of the scene is the first priority. If you were responding to a shooting as an EMS, you would literally sit there and wait, while the guy was bleeding, until the police secured it, and deemed it safe. Why would this be any different in your own home or anywhere else? Shoot the guy, Call police and EMS, then, once they arrive and deem it safe, by all means, feel free to start assisting the perp at that time if you really want to. Just because you 'arrived' first (Because you were already there) Doesn't get you a pass to not wait for the police. This scenario is no different in that respect than a 3rd party shooting.

I don't see how any board would rule that by not helping him before the scene was secured by police, that you were not doing your job, where, if you WERE on-the-clock, you would be required to wait for the police anyways.
by dicion
Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:15 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: First aid ,CPR after shooting?
Replies: 45
Views: 6079

Re: First aid ,CPR after shooting?

ninjamedic2293 wrote: Not attempting to stop an arterial bleed (when you can safely attempt to control the bleeding) when you have the training and knowledge that failure to do so will kill that person is murder. Perhaps not legally im not sure but definitely morally.
I'm former military, so I know how to properly use a tourniquet, and can identify an arterial bleed to an extremity. I would assume that I "have the training and knowledge" that you speak of above by this fact.

Yes, I'm going to holster my weapon, get close to, and attempt to assist someone who I just shot because they were trying to kill me... :roll:

Of course, since I shot him, he is going to be all nice and happy now, and NOT try to continue to kill me when I get within his arms reaching distance... :banghead:

I'm sorry, but there is NEVER a time that you can "safely attempt to control the bleeding" on a perp that you just shot. Even if he's unconscious, how do you know he doesn't have a friend outside in a getaway car that will come to investigate when you're busy trying to save the perp's life?

Sorry, but this is the stupidest idea ever. Right up there with Applying Handcuffs, CHL Badge/Sash, and a $200 Upper.
We need to start making a list. :lol:

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