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by dicion
Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:28 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Restaurant Robbers
Replies: 91
Views: 9750

Re: Restaurant Robbers

Sorry! My bad! :mrgreen:
by dicion
Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:08 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Restaurant Robbers
Replies: 91
Views: 9750

Re: Restaurant Robbers

C-dub wrote:Okay. If someone is given verbal notice, but does not have a CHL, is it still "notice" when they eventually do have their CHL? Or do they have to be told again?

Wouldn't now, while Random doesn't have a CHL, be a better time to challenge the policy?
There is really no 'statute of limitations' on 30.06, however, the law states that it only applies to license holders. So at the time, it would not apply to him. Also, Verbal notice is hard to prove. Especially if it is just his word against someone else's. If there were other people present, then it becomes a little more tricky. Also, 30.06 has the requirement that verbal notice has to be from someone with the authority to make that decision. If it was his manager, and not someone who has actual control of the building, then it could be argued that he was just reciting policy, and did not have the actual authority to do anything.

Lots of greyness here. Hence why it is better to follow the 'don't ask, don't tell' policy :)
by dicion
Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:27 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Restaurant Robbers
Replies: 91
Views: 9750

Re: Restaurant Robbers

texas1234 wrote: First thing I do is pull my wallet and put my gun under my leg "
The problem I see with drawing a gun before you decide to use it in a scenario like this is someone might sell you out to try and save their own behind.

Sad as it is, I am sure there are people out there that, if they saw you slowly pull a gun out of the robber's view in preparation to use it, would alert the robbers that you are armed, in an attempt to get 'cred' with them, and save their own behind.

There are a lot of backstabbing individuals out there that would gladly step on someone else's face if it could mean their safety in a situation like this. If you were going to draw, in preparation to possibly use it, make sure you do it outside EVERYONE's view, not just the robbers' (minus immediate family, of course)
by dicion
Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:39 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Restaurant Robbers
Replies: 91
Views: 9750

Re: Restaurant Robbers

Fangs wrote:Just out of curiosity, what would the legal problems be if in a situation like this where it was necessary to shoot back, you handed your BUG to a friend who you know can shoot but doesn't have a CHL?
You might want to completely start a new topic on this. I could see this bridging into a completely different discussion...
by dicion
Sat Oct 24, 2009 12:05 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Restaurant Robbers
Replies: 91
Views: 9750

Re: Restaurant Robbers

C-dub wrote:This was discussed a little here after the same thing happened in AZ.

http://texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_Forum ... le#p292441" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It looks like a no win situation if one were to try and stop them. However, if it looked like me or my family were going to get it anyway I would have to try. This is just such an unbelievable scenario that it's almost beyond comprehension.

And this is why we need MORE people in Texas with CHL's.

Imagine if they started shooting people, and suddenly, 6 or 8 restaurant patrons pulled out handguns and started returning fire.
Definitely a better scenario.

Even a Husband/Wife combo makes the odds 100% better.

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