Good to know, that is exactly the information I was looking for.
This is why everyone should know the guns they own, inside and out.
Just tossing ANY handgun into a backpack, loaded, and unsecured like this is irresponsible at best, but I'd consider it downright neglegent in this case.
Unfortunately, the 'other group' will most likely want to parade this as a gun just 'going off'.
Yet, they'd probably have no qualms blaming the person if they just threw an unsheathed sharp knife into the same backpack, and someone got cut.
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- Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:40 am
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: 8-12-09 Boy's Shooting Death - "jostled a backpack"
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- Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:18 am
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
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Re: 8-12-09 Boy's Shooting Death - "jostled a backpack"
That brings out a good question, I know Glocks are the most (in?)famous for their 'safety trigger' design, with no other safeties, but what other handguns (popular or unpopular) have this, or something similar?Keith B wrote:I was not really pointing fingers at Glocks specifically, there are lots of others that have fairly light triggers. I don't really have statistics to back it up, but would bet Glocks are probably the most common pistol out there for a lot of folks that carry.dicion wrote:I agree... I didn't want to name any specific names in my earlier post ... but this is probably the only way I could see this happening. Perhaps with a DAO revolver as well, but less likely, due to the greater force required.Keith B wrote:This is a real sad situation, but I can see it happening as stated. Any DAO pistol that has a light trigger (aka Glock) laying loose in a backpack could get something in the backpack pushed into the trigger guard. If they shove (jostle) the backpack and put 5-6 lbs of force on it while trying to move it out of the way, the item could pull the trigger. Some Glocks even have the 3.5 lb disconnecter on them, and they are really light.
This is why I have my CCW in a holster that covers the trigger at all times, even in the console of the car, glovebox or backpack.
If it is true, and did happen this way, then the fault is squarely on the adult for not securing the firearm properly.
I know the XD series has a grip safety in addition to a trigger safety. I can't think of another semi-auto manufacturer off the top of my head... Im sure there has to be some though. (There's LOTS of brands that I have never owned nor fired)
Obviously, theres some revolvers out there like this as well, but unless it's a pre-cocked DA/SA, the trigger pull is magnitudes harder than a Glock's.
- Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:07 am
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: 8-12-09 Boy's Shooting Death - "jostled a backpack"
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Re: 8-12-09 Boy's Shooting Death - "jostled a backpack"
I agree... I didn't want to name any specific names in my earlier post ... but this is probably the only way I could see this happening. Perhaps with a DA revolver as well, but less likely, due to the greater force required.Keith B wrote:This is a real sad situation, but I can see it happening as stated. Any DAO pistol that has a light trigger (aka Glock) laying loose in a backpack could get something in the backpack pushed into the trigger guard. If they shove (jostle) the backpack and put 5-6 lbs of force on it while trying to move it out of the way, the item could pull the trigger. Some Glocks even have the 3.5 lb disconnecter on them, and they are really light.
This is why I have my CCW in a holster that covers the trigger at all times, even in the console of the car, glovebox or backpack.
If it is true, and did happen this way, then the fault is squarely on the adult for not securing the firearm properly.
- Thu Aug 13, 2009 6:24 am
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: 8-12-09 Boy's Shooting Death - "jostled a backpack"
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Re: 8-12-09 Boy's Shooting Death - "jostled a backpack"
I concur. There's very few firearms that would go off that way, and then, while it is possible, it is very highly unlikely IMO.blc wrote: "Jostled a backpack with a 9mm semi-automatic pistol inside" ?! Is it just me, or does this seem rather far-fetched? I don't know of too many handguns that will go off because the pack they were in was 'jostled' ?
What do y'all think?
I hope we find out more information.