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JKTex wrote:

RedRaiderCHL wrote:I Just graduated from Texas Tech University in Lubbock in May 2014 and the new signs they have entering campus now are something along the lines of "any carrying of unlicensed firearms beyond this point is prohibited"

meaning now you can carry anywhere on TTU campus except inside the buildings. You might know all this already but i figured i would post the update as maybe there are some new incoming students looking for this answer.

Those signs don't mean anything other than they are a reminder of State law.

Looks to me like they messed up the word order as well, didn't know we had to license firearms in Texas

Should be "any unlicensed carrying of firearms..."

BoneDigger wrote:I may be wrong, but I believe that Mr. Smith of TPWD has this incorrect. I will check with the State Parks law enforcement program coordinator and see if I can get a word on this. Although TPWD leases some federal lands, state law NEVER trumps federal laws. It is illegal to carry on federal property, with the exception of the new laws on Federal parks. The exception is that the US Forest Service allows it during deer season while hunting. I am going to send an e-mail this evening and see what happens.

Todd

I won't believe it until we get a letter from the ACOE saying the Same thing. ACOE Law is Federal Law, and applies downwards to any lands leased under it. Even if it's allowed in state parks as per the law, it's ACOE Property First, State Park Second. ACOE Law Trumps.

I can put up a sign that says "Possession of an Obama bumper sticker on this property will get you arrested under Texas Penal Code 43.23"

Doesn't mean it's true, Just like that sign above isn't true either.

Kevinf2349 wrote:

Kevinf2349 wrote:Dickinson PD are displaying an illegal 30.06 on their main doorway. It is white lettering stuck directly to the glass...not sure if they have the same sign in Spanish either as I wasn't really paying attention to it. I just noticed the english version.

Further update.

I spoke to the police chaplain who informed me that the chief of police told them that they have a 'special exemption'. Sounds like a crock to me. How can they be exempt from following a state law?

They can't.

Ask for this 'special exemption' in writing. They won't be able to produce it :)

KRM45 wrote:I went to the Carrollton Senior Center this weekend and saw a big sign on the front and rear doors that said "no handguns allowed" I chuckled to myself as I walked past them and told my wife I was going to ask at the front desk if that meant I could bring my AR with me next time...

You jest, but, it would be fully legal to openly carry an AR into there (at least until they told you to leave )

Metal Detectors are a different story

Not because it changes the law, but because it increases the chance that you'll take 'the ride'.
And Unless I have a few extra grand in the bank account for a lawyer at that exact time, I just won't go there
With a properly concealed weapon, the only time an improper sign should come into play, would be if you had to USE that concealed weapon. And In that case, you're probably taking the ride anyways.

As mentioned in the other thread, I'd fight it administratively (talk to librarian, city, etc) before I'd try to force a fight in the courtroom.
However, case law makes it easier in the future for everyone else. Just gotta find someone to be the guinea pig test case

Yes, true, which Is why I changed it right after I posted it :P However, you beat me to it! :P

TexasAggie2006 wrote:They have metal detectors at the front so I can't just ignore the sign. (not that I would....)

I would

A non-compliant sign does not exist to me, and will be ignored.

If any place actually seriously believes that Concealed Handguns should not be carried there, they should at least spend the 2 minutes it takes to look up the laws, and post a proper sign.
A non-compliant sign to me, shows a half-brained approach. More like a "Look! We're banning guns to try to show we care! (but we really dont, at least not enough to actually look up the laws)' to the public.

We're supposed to know, and follow these laws 100% of the time, or face serious repercussions. They should know and follow them as well.