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- Sun May 20, 2012 3:19 am
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: New Patrol Rifle time
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Re: New Patrol Rifle time
I don't think you will be able to use anything lighter than 55 grain such as some varmit loads. I had asked my co-worker about the twist rate and he said he didn't notice any difference. I can't remember the exact ranges he was shooting but I know there was a 300 in there.
- Sat May 19, 2012 12:10 pm
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: New Patrol Rifle time
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The 1:7 would be the twist rate to go. It will stabilize the heavier rounds better. The heavier rounds have better penetration. One of the guys at work was in the Army for a long period of time and he is an avid shooter. He didn't notice much if any difference using the lighter 55 grain rounds or the heavier 62 grain rounds through the 1:7 twist rate barrel. With the faster twist you can use the 77 grain open tipped rounds.
- Sat May 19, 2012 2:34 am
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: New Patrol Rifle time
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I like that sight because I'm in the market for an M4 and I want something a step up from a plinker. I find M4 carbine to be a better and more mature sight than ar15.commaverick2076 wrote:Yeah, except the vast majority of the posters on that board are a bunch of arrogant, condescending asshats. They love to hold up "objective standards" for M-4's. However, they hate on PSA because "they haven't been around long enough to be trusted" even though they meet the same standards as other "tier 1" brands. They also trash Spikes Tactical because of the logos,etc.remington79 wrote:C-dub go over to http://www.m4carbine.net/forum.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and you find out a lot of differences between RRA, BM, Stag, etc. and the tier one weapons such as Colt, DD, BCM, etc. A lot has to do with quality, twist rate, chrome lined, magnetic particle testing of the bolts and barrels and the steel the barrels are made of. Over there they are looking at the M4 as a fighting rifle not a lower quality plinker.
They have a complete inability to acknowledge that the vast majority of M-4 owners don't need or want a battle rifle, and love to tell anyone that doesn't own a BCM, Colt, DD, Noveske or LaRue that their rifle is crap, they've wasted money, and that they should pawn their no-good rifle off on someone else and get something that is "G2G" ASAP, or else.
There might be some good info on that sight, but having to wade through the arrogant attitudes of most of the posters doesn't make it worth finding.
- Fri May 18, 2012 3:36 pm
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: New Patrol Rifle time
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Notice how DPMS and Bushmaster are missing to....
- Fri May 18, 2012 3:05 pm
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: New Patrol Rifle time
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C-dub go over to http://www.m4carbine.net/forum.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and you find out a lot of differences between RRA, BM, Stag, etc. and the tier one weapons such as Colt, DD, BCM, etc. A lot has to do with quality, twist rate, chrome lined, magnetic particle testing of the bolts and barrels and the steel the barrels are made of. Over there they are looking at the M4 as a fighting rifle not a lower quality plinker.
- Wed May 16, 2012 8:15 pm
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: New Patrol Rifle time
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How about a Bravo Company USA mid length? They make good rifles that are considered tier one rifles. From what I have read they also have good customer service.
edit: Plus they are in the same price range as the Colt. I have also seen on Ranier Arms webpage a nice Daniel Defense midlength for 1200.
edit: Plus they are in the same price range as the Colt. I have also seen on Ranier Arms webpage a nice Daniel Defense midlength for 1200.