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Charles L. Cotton wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 9:28 am

O.F.Fascist wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 7:07 am Perhaps not, but often in a debate the point isn't to win over the person you are debating but to win over the people who might be watching. In the presidential debates Trump didn't win over Hillary, but he sure as hell won over others. Being able to criticize Bonnen and others like him won't win him over, but it might be able to get others to oppose him or at least stop supporting him.

One more like this and others in this thread and you done. If you can't debate without the insults, then rant elsewhere.

Chas.

bblhd672 wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 6:47 am

AJSully421 wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 1:18 am All of you older guys spouting “but it is only Facebook” are extremely and insanely naive. You are projecting your own dislike of social media onto everyone.

Anyone who remotely understands the concept of “winning hearts and minds” sees Facebook for the incredibly important cyber battlefield that it is.

Just because you are old and don’t understand it, doesn’t make it horrible.

Carry on yelling at clouds...

I’m sure insulting those of us who disagree with you isn’t going to “win our hearts and minds.”

Bitter Clinger wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:47 pm

O.F.Fascist wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:21 pm There has been a similar ruling in the 5th circuit.

https://www.law.com/legaltechnews/2019/ ... 397-19289/

“Official censorship based on a state actor’s subjective judgment that the content of protected speech is offensive or inappropriate is viewpoint discrimination,” the opinion said, noting the court was assuming in its ruling that the sheriff’s office’s Facebook page was a public forum and subject to First Amendment protection.

So all Bonnen has to do is take his page private and there goes the hissy fit lawsuit. And there would be no court costs if there was no lawsuit to begin with.

And who cares about Facebook anyway? Only those who live in their parents basements.

Spend the effort defeating Bonnen next election.

“Official censorship based on a state actor’s subjective judgment that the content of protected speech is offensive or inappropriate is viewpoint discrimination,” the opinion said, noting the court was assuming in its ruling that the sheriff’s office’s Facebook page was a public forum and subject to First Amendment protection.

C-dub wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 1:52 pm

Deltaboy wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 1:43 pm Bonner and his wife are Proven Liars and deserve this Lawsuit!

I agree that they are liars, but what does that have to do with this lawsuit?

C-dub wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 1:32 pm

O.F.Fascist wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 1:27 pm

Bitter Clinger wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 1:12 pm

C-dub wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 12:52 pm

O.F.Fascist wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 12:26 pm

C-dub wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 10:31 am I’m no fan of Bonnen, but Grisham can’t be serious about this. What a nuisance! And that’s my nice word for him on this forum.

CJ and OCT aren't the ones who sued. I just used his share because his post is public; to view the post on Lone Star Gun Rights' page one has to be logged in.

Why do you think this isn't a serious issue? There have been court rulings on this before. When people with government paychecks work to limit our rights, I support anyone pushing back against them on any front.

That is interesting. I have no idea why I thought something this ridiculous had anything to do with him. Yeah, there's a little sarcasm in there, but mostly a curious mistake on my part.

However, I do fail to understand how being unfriended on FB is lawsuit worthy. The two guys or group are not being fined or jailed or in other way prohibited from spreading their message. They're just not being allowed to do it on this FB page. Just as Bitter Clinger noted, he wasn't even banned by FB. Which, BTW, also would not be an infringement of their First Amendment rights. FB is a private company. They can ban or control whatever they want on their platform. Maybe if Pocahontas Warren gets her way FB will become a public utility or something and then these guys will have a leg to stand on. Personally, I think this lawsuit is ridiculous and childish, but that's just me. Or perhaps not.

Glad to know not everyone was asleep during Civics class!

The part he missed is that in this instance it is a government employee who is silencing speech on a public page, not Facebook. Its one thing if a person keeps a private personal page, but it is another when a government employee is utilizing a public page in which they interact with the public.

Your own title says FACEBOOK. Therefore, I'm assuming this was not a government page with a .gov extension. Do you have any skin in this game? Are you one of the group that was banned?

Bitter Clinger wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 1:12 pm

C-dub wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 12:52 pm

O.F.Fascist wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 12:26 pm

C-dub wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 10:31 am I’m no fan of Bonnen, but Grisham can’t be serious about this. What a nuisance! And that’s my nice word for him on this forum.

CJ and OCT aren't the ones who sued. I just used his share because his post is public; to view the post on Lone Star Gun Rights' page one has to be logged in.

Why do you think this isn't a serious issue? There have been court rulings on this before. When people with government paychecks work to limit our rights, I support anyone pushing back against them on any front.

That is interesting. I have no idea why I thought something this ridiculous had anything to do with him. Yeah, there's a little sarcasm in there, but mostly a curious mistake on my part.

However, I do fail to understand how being unfriended on FB is lawsuit worthy. The two guys or group are not being fined or jailed or in other way prohibited from spreading their message. They're just not being allowed to do it on this FB page. Just as Bitter Clinger noted, he wasn't even banned by FB. Which, BTW, also would not be an infringement of their First Amendment rights. FB is a private company. They can ban or control whatever they want on their platform. Maybe if Pocahontas Warren gets her way FB will become a public utility or something and then these guys will have a leg to stand on. Personally, I think this lawsuit is ridiculous and childish, but that's just me. Or perhaps not.

Glad to know not everyone was asleep during Civics class!

Bitter Clinger wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 12:40 pm

anygunanywhere wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 12:35 pm I'm guessing that all of the issues with social media banning conservatives is just bull then since obviously some folks here think this is also bull. Some conservatives are more valuable than others and their opinions are more important. Goose meet gander.

He was not banned by Facebook. He was "unfriended" or whatever the moronic Facebook term would be.

C-dub wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 10:31 am I’m no fan of Bonnen, but Grisham can’t be serious about this. What a nuisance! And that’s my nice word for him on this forum.