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by Smokey613
Tue Sep 27, 2016 7:51 am
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: OK: Tulsa LEO Charged with Manslaughter
Replies: 50
Views: 9584

Re: OK: Tulsa LEO Charged with Manslaughter

WTR wrote:
Pawpaw wrote:I could swear I posted this before, but I can't find it now.

It appears she might have been justified in shooting him. Just something to consider instead of condemning her out of hand.

http://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2016/09/22 ... -crutcher/

Your article seems to contradict it's self. In one sentence the author says the window being up or down is a red herring, in another he says she shot when the victim reached inside the car ( insinuating the window was open and that is why she shot). Every close up I have seen of the window shows it clearly closed. Why would she be so scared with all the back up she had?
This is why....

http://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2016/09/20 ... inkheller/
by Smokey613
Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:03 am
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: OK: Tulsa LEO Charged with Manslaughter
Replies: 50
Views: 9584

Re: OK: Tulsa LEO Charged with Manslaughter

If you look back on the officer involved shootings in the past few years there is usually one common denominator... Non Compliance by the suspect. When I began my career in law enforcement in 1977, that was a rare occurrence on minor infractions unless the suspect was very intoxicated and mentally unable to process the requests of the officer or other extenuating factors. The non compliance did begin to increase slightly over the years but nothing to level it is today. When I retired in 2005, it was still not too bad but the increasingly "militarization" of our LEOs along with the increased media coverage of various "activists" I believe, has increased this non compliance or animosity if you will towards the police. Upon my return to LE in December in 2015 I soon realized that non compliance was the norm, not the exception even for the most minor of infractions. Since I had not been in it for a decade this behavior became quickly apparent to me. Fortunately my current job does not involve answering calls for service and most of my public interactions are in a somewhat control environment of the municipal courthouse. When we do go out on warrant sweeps we usually have additional manpower and the suspect is known to us. I have no magic solution to all this but I can tell you that there is a definite heightened state of awareness among LEOs in this country. The local law enforcement agencies in my area have a pretty good rapport with our citizens and except for the SWAT teams still wear the "conventional style" uniforms that have been abandoned in several of your major metropolitan agencies for more military style uniforms.
by Smokey613
Thu Sep 22, 2016 3:40 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: OK: Tulsa LEO Charged with Manslaughter
Replies: 50
Views: 9584

Re: OK: Tulsa LEO Charged with Manslaughter

To make a judgement of a situation based on a short video clip, while sitting in your recliner sipping on a cool one is easy. Now I am not taking sides on the Tulsa OIS and apparently the DA feels they have enough evidence to proceed with an indictment, what I will say is if you have never been in such a situation you cannot not even begin to understand all that such an incident involves for all parties involved. That is why we live in the greatest country on earth is because our judicial system, while not perfect is better than anything thing else. Let the judicial system runs it's course to determine guilt or innocence.

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