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by suthdj
Fri May 08, 2015 6:28 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: CITY: 2 GUNMEN KILLED OUTSIDE MUHAMMAD CARTOON CONTEST
Replies: 187
Views: 29550

Re: CITY: 2 GUNMEN KILLED OUTSIDE MUHAMMAD CARTOON CONTEST

ScooterSissy wrote:
rotor wrote:
ScooterSissy wrote:
XnTx wrote:Someone said we should have a cartoon contest once a quarter. Kind of like moths to a light.
I have mixed feelings about this whole episode. Before I make my main point, I want to make a few things clear though.
  • I believe 100% that the folks that held the cartoon contest were within "their rights" to do so.
  • I believe 100% that no one should feel compelled to cease their normal activities because of threats of violence by a group that disagrees with those activities (as long as their legal)
  • I believe 100% that the reaction of terrorists to these types of events are pure evil, and they deserve what they get.
  • I believe 100% that the off-duty Garland officer is a hero
But here's the "but"...

I ride with the Patriot Guard Riders. The idiots from Kansas that "inspired" that group are exercising their "rights" when they stage the offensive protests at military (and other) funerals. In the process of their "protest", they are offending people that are totally innocent in all of this, and what they are doing is just wrong.

The folks that staged the "cartoon contest" were deliberately poking at evil people that meet civil disagreement with terror; however, at the same time they are offending many more totally innocent people of the Muslim faith that are not terrorists.



I don't see how they are any "less wrong" than the Westboro fools.
I don't understand how there can be a "but".
This was a private group holding a meeting about a cartoon contest in the USA. They don't have to refrain from holding the contest in the USA. This is not a Muslim country. As far as I am concerned, every newspaper in the country could have run the same cartoon on the front page. As far as the Westboro fools, we don't agree with them but we don't kill them. The supreme court has said they have the right to do what they do. We let them do it. I just don't agree with your "but". We need more brave people standing up for the first amendment. Our press has become a bunch of cowards. How many posted the picture that ran in Charlie Hebdo? Pamella Geller, the lady that set up the event has been threatened with a fatwa- is this the new law in the USA? Something is major wrong in this country when people are afraid to speak because it may "upset" some group.
Nowhere in what I said did I even remotely imply that we kill those with whom we disagree.

However, at least in the Westboro case, we call them all sorts of names, and look at them with disgust. The folks that held this venue were doing more than simply standing up for their rights; they were deliberately insulting the faith of millions of people that never did that group wrong.

Your response ran down areas that I didn't touch on, so I'll repeat; how are the folks that held this venue any different than the Westboro folks in what they are doing.

Both were exercising their 1st amendment rights. Both doing it as a protest. Both were being deliberately insulting to millions who had nothing to do with the "cause".
When the Muslims held their event millions of Americans were insulted, when AFDI held their event millions of Muslims were insulted.

When the Muslims held their event AFDI protested, when AFDI held their event Muslims attacked it.

A comparison with Westboro is not even in the same realm.
by suthdj
Tue May 05, 2015 6:19 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: CITY: 2 GUNMEN KILLED OUTSIDE MUHAMMAD CARTOON CONTEST
Replies: 187
Views: 29550

Re: CITY: 2 GUNMEN KILLED OUTSIDE MUHAMMAD CARTOON CONTEST

if the best ISIS could get was two meatheads from arizona I feel pretty safe.

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