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by KD5NRH
Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:57 am
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Henderson Co.: Police search leaves property owner dead
Replies: 13
Views: 1914

Re: Henderson Co.: Police search leaves property owner dead

Hoi Polloi wrote:I'm no grammar expert. Are those independent clauses?

"If this is where the one from earlier was supposed to go," doesn't seem to me like it can stand on its own.
I'm a bit too sleepy to look it up, but my understanding of the breakdown is to treat the conditional as if it isn't really a part of the clause, but rather to group it with the conjuction: "This is where the one from earlier was supposed to go."
seamusTX wrote:Is this discussion really helping our understanding of this issue?
Understanding the source is critical to determining the validity of data in the absence of any practical, direct means of verification. Since I doubt the sheriff would tolerate all of us calling for clarification and verification, it is important to understand how well these processes would have been handled by the reporter.

Look at it this way; the reporter, assuming he went through a normal American education, had over 1500 hours of classroom instruction (not counting homework or any other study outside the classroom, like speaking to other people or reading anything that's properly written) in English without gaining particularly good skills. As a reporter, he also presumably uses written English as a communications medium far more than many people. If he's still writing at a 5th grade or lower level (basic comma usage is 4th grade in most curricula) after all that, I really don't trust whatever few hundred hours of journalism instruction he's had to have made him a very good fact checker or reliable communicator of facts.
by KD5NRH
Mon Oct 25, 2010 8:08 am
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Henderson Co.: Police search leaves property owner dead
Replies: 13
Views: 1914

Re: Henderson Co.: Police search leaves property owner dead

Hoi Polloi wrote:
KD5NRH wrote:
seamusTX wrote:Not sure if that's another extra, or if this is where the one from earlier was supposed to go.

Guess I better skip most of the errors, or I'll end up quoting 75% or more of the article.
Ironic, considering the two extra commas you included in your own post. ;-)
It seems a couple of my style guides have suffered from toddler-based displacement, but I'm pretty sure my use (joining independent clauses in combination with a conjunction) is considered optional, whereas most of his are just plain wrong.

Poking through the backup Webster's Bookshelf, the Secretary's Handbook discourages such use, while the Grammar Handbook encourages it.
by KD5NRH
Sun Oct 24, 2010 8:57 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Henderson Co.: Police search leaves property owner dead
Replies: 13
Views: 1914

Re: Henderson Co.: Police search leaves property owner dead

Hopefully, they'll also be going after Mr Riggs for the various atrocities he's committed against the English language.
Granger was a neighbor to Bill Clements, Jr. who during a law enforcement search for Clements, was fired upon by Granger’s AK-47.
What, it's a suicide now? Or are they saying the cops sent in ninjas to take his gun and shoot him with it?
The Friday standoff between SWAT officers and a neighbor to property associated with the family of former Texas Governor Bill Clements, is history, as well as the death of the neighbor Howard Granger.
Just had an extra comma laying around, apparently.
Thursday’s original call at about 11:30 p.m., involved the disappearance of the former Governor’s son.
Not sure if that's another extra, or if this is where the one from earlier was supposed to go.

Guess I better skip most of the errors, or I'll end up quoting 75% or more of the article.
Goecking said the vehicle carried about 13 SWAT team and other law enforcement officials at the time of the standoff, and was hit at least 30 times by shells from the AK-47, a weapon which he said also contained in its installation a 50-round drum magazine.
Uh, what? The gun had an installation? AKs aren't usually mounted.

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