Greybeard.
I was at the same session as you and that was also my take-away from his comments of no magnification, no laser, but RDS probably OK. Later that day, I sent an email to RSD asking for written confirmation of Asst. Chief Hester's comments (using the address they had that sent us our confirmation since they stated that was more likely to be answered quickly). As of this morning no reply. We shall see. Personally, until I see it in writing, I will remain with current guidance, but hope they will answer soon.
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- Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:57 am
- Forum: Instructors' Corner
- Topic: Time to modernize qual - allow Red Dots
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- Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:02 pm
- Forum: Instructors' Corner
- Topic: Time to modernize qual - allow Red Dots
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Re: Time to modernize qual - allow Red Dots
Tex1961,
Yep, been there and seen that. Had more than one that tried to load the rounds in the mag backwards, one that upon the command "fire" would close her eyes and turn her head sideways (she lasted two rounds before I removed her). We keep telling them that this is NOT a learn to shoot class, that the shooting portion is a demonstration of proficiency (and safety) with a firearm. If they want to learn to shoot, we offer that class as well as one that allows beginners to shoot four or five different handguns, starting with a .22 (Glock 44) for 50 rounds, then a S&W .380EZ for 10 rounds, then a Glock 19 for 10 rounds, and if desired A S&W 4" barrel .38 for 10 rounds. Other options include a Ruger LCR in .38 and a Glock 26. Many students don't want this course, because it is more expensive than the LTC as I am providing the firearms and ammo, but if they took it, they would have a better idea of what firearm would best suit them and have a better chance of passing the LTC demonstration of proficiency.
Yep, been there and seen that. Had more than one that tried to load the rounds in the mag backwards, one that upon the command "fire" would close her eyes and turn her head sideways (she lasted two rounds before I removed her). We keep telling them that this is NOT a learn to shoot class, that the shooting portion is a demonstration of proficiency (and safety) with a firearm. If they want to learn to shoot, we offer that class as well as one that allows beginners to shoot four or five different handguns, starting with a .22 (Glock 44) for 50 rounds, then a S&W .380EZ for 10 rounds, then a Glock 19 for 10 rounds, and if desired A S&W 4" barrel .38 for 10 rounds. Other options include a Ruger LCR in .38 and a Glock 26. Many students don't want this course, because it is more expensive than the LTC as I am providing the firearms and ammo, but if they took it, they would have a better idea of what firearm would best suit them and have a better chance of passing the LTC demonstration of proficiency.
- Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:06 pm
- Forum: Instructors' Corner
- Topic: Time to modernize qual - allow Red Dots
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Re: Time to modernize qual - allow Red Dots
Well, they have already reduced the caliber requirement for the LTC so why not allow any firearm that could be carried. With the ammo shortage, i am seeing more and more students shoot the "Demonstration of Proficiency" with a .22. So far, have not had a single student shooting a .22 NOT qualify. The ones that scare me are not the ones who show up with a Glock/SIG/S&W/Kimber/Canik with a laser or RDS, but the student that shows up with the Hi-Point and a bent front sight.