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by A-R
Mon Dec 16, 2013 12:33 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: NYPD shoots bystanders; suspect charged
Replies: 111
Views: 11357

Re: NYPD shoots bystanders; suspect charged

MOST NYPD officers fire their FIRST gun, ever in their entire lives, at the police academy, some as young as 21 to as old as 35 shooting for their very first time
THIS is one of the most overlooked downsides of the rampant anti-gun philosophy of northeastern states - the reduced pool of people for police (or military) service who have any concept of gun proficiency. Now I know well the argument that it's easier to teach a complete noob than someone who starts with often poor/bad experience with guns, but it also takes a lot longer and costs a lot more money to train a complete noob than someone who as least has the basics down. Not to mention those who only view the gun as a tool likely won't have the needed desire to train hard with their gun after the required qualifying is completed.

Just look at the Brits - many of their LEOs don't even carry guns and have never handled one. Give it another generation or two in libtard utopia and there won't be any police cadets left who even want to carry those scary guns; the fear of guns will be so ingrained within their psyche from childhood.
by A-R
Sat Dec 14, 2013 6:36 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: NYPD shoots bystanders; suspect charged
Replies: 111
Views: 11357

Re: NYPD shoots bystanders; suspect charged

mojo84 wrote:
A-R wrote:
mojo84 wrote:Yep. They are.

Is there a report saying the heavy triggers "had something to do with it" ?
I dunno is there a member here (other than you) saying that?
Like I said, it was alluded to by a couple of posters by bringing it up in this thread. I even quoted it so even you could understand what I was referencing. Now I am done playing the game with you.
Well since they were merely casually alluding to it, then seems self evident there is no report or other evidence of it being a factor other than their casual speculation.
by A-R
Sat Dec 14, 2013 4:58 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: NYPD shoots bystanders; suspect charged
Replies: 111
Views: 11357

Re: NYPD shoots bystanders; suspect charged

mojo84 wrote:Yep. They are.

Is there a report saying the heavy triggers "had something to do with it" ?
I dunno is there a member here (other than you) saying that?
by A-R
Sat Dec 14, 2013 4:50 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: NYPD shoots bystanders; suspect charged
Replies: 111
Views: 11357

Re: NYPD shoots bystanders; suspect charged

mojo84 wrote:Is there a report showing "it had something to do with it"?

If there is, that may clear it up.

It didn't come across as a simple question. It came across as bait and a potential excuse. I'm done too.
I dunno "had something to do with it" were your words.
by A-R
Sat Dec 14, 2013 4:32 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: NYPD shoots bystanders; suspect charged
Replies: 111
Views: 11357

Re: NYPD shoots bystanders; suspect charged

"Had something to do with it"

DOES NOT EQUAL

"Is responsible for it"

Does that clear it up?
by A-R
Thu Dec 05, 2013 6:38 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: NYPD shoots bystanders; suspect charged
Replies: 111
Views: 11357

Re: Suspect charged with injuring bystanders shot by NYPD

cb1000rider wrote:
A-R wrote: Agree, but I think the rub here is whether they were justified to shoot at all? Hands in his pockets, no gun. By no means do I intend to second guess as I wasn't there, but it don't sound good based solely on the report.
I pretty much accept that if you're deemed to be physically threatening (over 12 years old, under 80 years old) and you make a furtive move, you can justifiably be shot if you're not following directions. There isn't any reason why LEOs should take a beating just so a suspect doesn't get shot.. Besides, there is a greater danger if they are physically incapacitated.

I don't get the backdrop issue.. Maybe joker can weigh in here, but isn't that in consideration before shooting - or is that you're just focused on that limited area and not what is in the background?
Agree, I just didn't see much in the way of life-threatening movements by the suspect described in the story (again, one article is only info I have).
by A-R
Thu Dec 05, 2013 6:18 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: NYPD shoots bystanders; suspect charged
Replies: 111
Views: 11357

Re: Suspect charged with injuring bystanders shot by NYPD

cb1000rider wrote:Horrible title - back to media school for someone.. How about "Unarmed suspect charged with wounding bystanders"?
:oops:

doh! you're right ... tried to fix it, still not very good ... kinda says something about how convoluted the story is that you can't describe it accurately in 7-8 words
by A-R
Thu Dec 05, 2013 6:13 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: NYPD shoots bystanders; suspect charged
Replies: 111
Views: 11357

Re: Suspect charged with injuring bystanders shot by NYPD

texanjoker wrote:One should expect to be charged for an action that causes police to any force to include deadly force. Just because they missed doesn't give him a free pass .
Agree, but I think the rub here is whether they were justified to shoot at all? Hands in his pockets, no gun. By no means do I intend to second guess as I wasn't there, but it don't sound good based solely on the report.
by A-R
Thu Dec 05, 2013 4:25 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: NYPD shoots bystanders; suspect charged
Replies: 111
Views: 11357

NYPD shoots bystanders; suspect charged

PLEASE no broad police bashing. On its face, this looks really bad for NYPD and the prosecutors over reaching. But all I know is what I read in below story.

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Unarmed Man Is Charged With Wounding Bystanders Shot by Police Near Times Square

By JAMES C. McKINLEY Jr.
December 4, 2013

An unarmed, emotionally disturbed man shot at by the police as he was lurching around traffic near Times Square in September has been charged with assault, on the theory that he was responsible for bullet wounds suffered by two bystanders, according to an indictment unsealed in State Supreme Court in Manhattan on Wednesday.

The man, Glenn Broadnax, 35, of Brooklyn, created a disturbance on Sept. 14, wading into traffic at 42nd Street and Eighth Avenue and throwing himself into the path of oncoming cars.

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Mariann Wang, a lawyer representing Sahar Khoshakhlagh, one of the women who was wounded, said the district attorney should be pursuing charges against the two officers who fired their weapons in a crowd, not against Mr. Broadnax. “It’s an incredibly unfortunate use of prosecutorial discretion to be prosecuting a man who didn’t even injure my client,” she said. “It’s the police who injured my client.”

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