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- Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:10 pm
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: Boston Tried a Police State and it Failed
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Re: Boston Tried a Police State and it Failed
What percentage of these searches have been confirmed non-consentual?
- Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:05 pm
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: Boston Tried a Police State and it Failed
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Re: Boston Tried a Police State and it Failed
Hindsight is 20/20. They couldn't possibly know at the time what he did or did not have nor who he may or may not be conspiring with. But they knew he had explosives and had used them.VMI77 wrote:See my edited post, to which I add this: When they conducted the search in question the "terrorist" was on foot, without any bombs, and no better armed than a gang banger. There was no imminent bomb threat. And furthermore, the search was the product of incompetence and would have been unnecessary if this massive and extremely expensive security state was worth the money spent on it.A-R wrote:I didn't say any of that. Nice job extrapolating what YOU believe I said so it fits your argument.VMI77 wrote:A-R wrote:Gangbanger vs terrorist ... gangbanger uses targeted killing to "mark his turf" - terrorist uses indiscriminate killing to place an entire populace in fear ... apples vs oranges
Yeah, right, that's why all those drive by's are so accurate and never injure innocent people. And it's not like gang bangers control, say, government housing units, and have the people living there afraid; and of course no one in a gang controlled neighborhood lives in fear, or is afraid for their children to walk the streets. Yeah, you're right, no one fears a gang banger because they're so meticulous in their killing.
Both gangbangers and terrorists need to be stopped. But a terrorist believed to have bombs with him and the potential to inflict more indiscriminate killing is a different problem (with different methods/solutions) than the daily localized violent actions of gangbangers.
Again, BOTH need to be stopped and I in no way am debating a moral equivalency between the two. Just trying to explain the difference in response hierarchy, methods, reasoning.
Different.
As to the rest, you're entitled to your opinion.
- Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:23 pm
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: Boston Tried a Police State and it Failed
- Replies: 66
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Re: Boston Tried a Police State and it Failed
I didn't say any of that. Nice job extrapolating what YOU believe I said so it fits your argument.VMI77 wrote:A-R wrote:Gangbanger vs terrorist ... gangbanger uses targeted killing to "mark his turf" - terrorist uses indiscriminate killing to place an entire populace in fear ... apples vs oranges
Yeah, right, that's why all those drive by's are so accurate and never injure innocent people. And it's not like gang bangers control, say, government housing units, and have the people living there afraid; and of course no one in a gang controlled neighborhood lives in fear, or is afraid for their children to walk the streets. Yeah, you're right, no one fears a gang banger because they're so meticulous in their killing.
Both gangbangers and terrorists need to be stopped. But a terrorist believed to have bombs with him and the potential to inflict more indiscriminate killing is a different problem (with different methods/solutions) than the daily localized violent actions of gangbangers.
Again, BOTH need to be stopped and I in no way am debating a moral equivalency between the two. Just trying to explain the difference in response hierarchy, methods, reasoning.
- Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:11 pm
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: Boston Tried a Police State and it Failed
- Replies: 66
- Views: 10339
Re: Boston Tried a Police State and it Failed
Gangbanger vs terrorist ... gangbanger uses targeted killing to "mark his turf" - terrorist uses indiscriminate killing to place an entire populace in fear ... apples vs oranges