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by sparx
Wed Apr 05, 2006 2:04 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: This will make you sick
Replies: 19
Views: 2241

nitrogen wrote:I wish they'd teach this stuff in school. (Imagine that)
Amazingly, I guess I was indeed lucky in that respect, as in our school (in New Mexico, early '70's), the week before school let out for Christmas holiday, teachers or other adults taught classes in their hobbies or interests. In seventh grade I took the NM Hunters Safety course (along with other neat courses like fly tying and gemstone cutting/polishing).

The class was a blast, was taught by a Game Warden, and included in addition to the standard stuff and basic emergency medical techniques, going out to a range one afternoon for target practice with a .22 rifle. A lot of kids took the class that had never even held a gun before, just because they were curious and had heard that they would get a chance to shoot one. Personally, I would MUCH rather have such a choice be an option for our nation's kids than to be repressed to the point where the only way they can satisfy their curiousity is when they "happen upon one someplace," and are usually unsupervised at that time as well.

PS - At least YOU are not an ANTI now, so there's one bright light I see! :grin:
by sparx
Wed Apr 05, 2006 12:40 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: This will make you sick
Replies: 19
Views: 2241

nitrogen wrote:I hate toy guns, mostly because I think they give kids the idea that GUN == TOY, which in my eyes is quite dangerous.

I'd rather give them the real thing; teach them the safety rules, etc. When I know my kids know how to safely handle REAL guns, maybe THEN i'd let them have the fun water gun, etc.
I fully respect your feelings of course, but will say that, at least in our family, as a child I was clearly shown and knew the difference between a REAL gun and a toy gun at a very early age. When I was old enough for a cap gun (3 maybe??), I also knew that "Daddy's gun was a real gun (just like on the cowboy shows! ;-) ), made a BIG bang, and with it he could REALLY blow stuff up or kill with it," and could be extremely dangerous if not properly handled.

We may have been in the minority, but neither I nor my four other brothers and sisters were confused in the slightest between the differences. My Dad made sure of that by showing us all at about that age what his pistol, a Colt .44-40, could do ("See that old clay pot sitting on that log out there? BOOM! [as fragments and dirt settled, leaving only the pot's bottom on the log.] Now don't ever let that happen to you! A bullet can't tell the difference between you, one of your brothers or sisters, or that old pot, only you can."), how loud it was (even with our fingers pressed tight into our ears), and that it was NOT a toy and wasn't to be even touched without him around.

He would unload it and let us "check it out" to see how heavy it was (too heavy to lug around at that age, for sure!), and asked that should we ever be curious and want to look at it again, all we need do is tell him so he can unload it first. And, if we ever wanted to shoot it, to do the same and he would take us out and let us shoot it. But, it was years before any of us felt that want (at least until were 10 or so). By that time we already had plenty of training in safe gun handling and experience shooting .22's and .410's.

With the exception of that one pistol, which was kept behind his bedside dresser and inaccessible to a crawler/toddler, he kept all his guns locked up. But, since we all knew where he "hid" the key (and he knew we knew), I'm glad that he stressed that keeping the gun cabinet locked didn't mean that we couldn't handle his guns, but he just didn't want us to handle them without him overseeing our safety habits until we were old enough. There were plenty of times when we took him up on his offer to look at them, especially when we had friends over (who all had parents that were gun-savvy and hunters or target shooters alike, thank goodness). This also gave him the chance to explain proper gun safety not only to us, but also to them, too.

Anyway, that's my opinion. Teach them what a real gun is and can do at a very early age, squelch their curiosity by letting them handle an empty gun and explain what the various parts do and how to safely handle and care for it before their "sneakiness" gets the better of them, and take common-sense security measures to keep your family safe.
by sparx
Wed Apr 05, 2006 10:37 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: This will make you sick
Replies: 19
Views: 2241

It IS sad, as she's just one of many that suffer from misinformation (we all know guns don't kill, people do), illogical thinking (guns CAN be dangerous if not properly handled, but I would rather teach proper respect and safe handling of a powerful tool instead of pretending they don't exist and pray that the child never gets exposed to one), and peer pressure (all the other anti-gun moms she hangs with that feed her the latest bull that they've heard, but haven't bothered to factually check).

And, although I don't have any children of my own, I was indeed a curious chap when growing up and nothing seemed to pique my interest as much as those things I was "denied". What's sad is that, due to her confiscations of halloween toys and other objects that represent "weapons", I would almost bet that she's setting her child up to become a statistic as one of the children that, when exposed to an uncontrolled gun over at someone else's house becomes overly curious and an accident may happen.

I sense that she really, deep down, realizes that her logic is somewhat flawed, but I also feel that no logical communication with this person will sway the feelings and objections that her fellowship of friends, also seemingly anti-gun, have engrained in her. She may be a very sweet and loving lady... I'm just glad she wasn't MY mom!

Just my .02 cents.

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