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by powerboatr
Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:57 am
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Topic: Dallas Ordering New Tough Restrictions
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Re: Dallas Ordering New Tough Restrictions

The Annoyed Man wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:25 am Anybody here old enough to remember what life was like before the Patriot Act?

Was it rescinded when Al Qaeda was defeated in Iraq and Afghanistan? How about after ISIS was defeated? Will it EVER be rescinded? Will gov’t EVER stop finding reasons to implement its provisions/restrictions? Will there ever NOT be an ongoing justification for the existence of the DHS; for the NSA spying on ALL Americans; etc., etc.?

There are some important principles at work here.....

1. Once liberty has been curtailed in the name of safety, it is never regained without violence.

2. The justifications for curtailing liberty in the name of safety ALWAYS arise out of a crisis made worse by the social autism of people who refuse to self-modify their behaviors in order to mitigate the crisis at hand.

3. By individually agreeing to modify certain of our behaviors in socially responsible ways for a temporary period of time until the crisis passes—thereby removing the opportunity for statism to override liberty—liberty can be protected from state-imposed "safety" measures that, one enacted, will become permanent impositions.

4. The degree to which the federal and various state and local gov’ts are imposing on individual liberty is directly proportional to the percentage of the population who are socially autistic and therefore unable (or more likely unwilling, from a lack of humility) to temporarily modify their own behaviors according to the crisis at hand.

5. Defend your liberty by any and all means. Sometimes, that means the exercise of two things: wisdom, and the long term view.

That’s my 5¢.
:iagree: . so far in our neck of the woods we are still a small normal. with exception of TP and bread.
by powerboatr
Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:54 am
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Topic: Dallas Ordering New Tough Restrictions
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Re: Dallas Ordering New Tough Restrictions

ELB wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 10:50 am
powerboatr wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:03 pm
jmorris wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:20 pm
joe817 wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:21 pm What's next? Curfew for all citizens? Bringing out the National Guard to enforce that curfew? Hmmmm......

Almost sounds like martial law, doesn't it?
"Officials in six San Francisco Bay Area counties issued a sweeping shelter-in-place mandate Monday affecting nearly 7 million people, ordering residents to stay at home and go outside only for food, medicine and outings that are absolutely essential."

ABC News: San Francisco Bay Area counties issue shelter-in-place order - ABC ....
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory ... e-69627648
and all the street sleepers must stay in their tents :biggrinjester:
Yeah, like the street sleepers are going to obey the law. I'll bet it's against San Fran policy for the police to "harass" them. With all the law-abidin' folks sequestered at home and the homeless camped out in every nook and cranny, and the mentally ill wandering the streets defecating everywhere, it would be easy to shoot a re-make of "The Omega Man". You'd only need the lead actor and that filming technique where the cameraman just follows the actor everywhere.
yep exactly what i was hinting at. i think more panic than facts I have spoken to a few that recovered and they had a rough few days with high fever, but pushed through without a hospital ventilator. i am sure older person by the nature of age and those with lung problems will take it harder, just like all the other viruses that like lungs.
by powerboatr
Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:03 pm
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: Dallas Ordering New Tough Restrictions
Replies: 83
Views: 30248

Re: Dallas Ordering New Tough Restrictions

jmorris wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:20 pm
joe817 wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:21 pm What's next? Curfew for all citizens? Bringing out the National Guard to enforce that curfew? Hmmmm......

Almost sounds like martial law, doesn't it?
"Officials in six San Francisco Bay Area counties issued a sweeping shelter-in-place mandate Monday affecting nearly 7 million people, ordering residents to stay at home and go outside only for food, medicine and outings that are absolutely essential."

ABC News: San Francisco Bay Area counties issue shelter-in-place order - ABC ....
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory ... e-69627648
and all the street sleepers must stay in their tents :biggrinjester:

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