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by mr surveyor
Mon Sep 03, 2007 6:40 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Opinions on the Kel-Tec PF9
Replies: 19
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Re: PF9 and P3AT

texasag93 wrote:I have both and both are great.

If you have one, I would not buy the other. They are too close. The P3AT is sligthly smaller.

The only problem I have with the PF9 is when loading JHP. If the nose is too far back (Wolf Gold JHP), the bullet gets stuck on the feed ramp.

When I shoot Brown Bear through the P3AT, I have a FTE every 3-5 rounds.

TexasAg

I know some folks swear by the commie steel cased or bi-metal (cheap brass like substance coated steel case) ammo, but I would certainly not shoot it in a P3AT. I used to shoot wolf 9mm in my old Spainish Star BM, but when I tried wolf, brown bear and silver bear, my P3AT just did not like it. Cheap is rarely the best.... or even adequate. I just do not believe that the laquer (or even newer polymer) coated steel cased stuff is healthy for chambers, extractors or ejectors.

just my personal opinion
by mr surveyor
Mon Sep 03, 2007 1:31 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Opinions on the Kel-Tec PF9
Replies: 19
Views: 2829

nuparadigm wrote:
Dwight K. Schrute wrote: ....Also, as mine is arriving in a week, I'd love to hear thoughts on holsters from anyone here. I'm looking at KTOG, too, but I like you guys better. Right now I feel confident about purchasing the DeSantis "Nemesis". I've always been pleased with their holsters.

http://www.desantisholster.com/n38.html
The PF-9 will, generally, fit into anything a PM9 Kahr will fit into .... BUT, for $35 you can get the IWB I carry mine in. It's called the Hidden Companion
http://www.grandfatheroak.com
just curious, does the Hidden Companion stay in place, at the angle you want, with just a single belt loop retainer? I would think the thin kydex would be very comfortable, but does this one stay put?
by mr surveyor
Mon Sep 03, 2007 12:32 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Opinions on the Kel-Tec PF9
Replies: 19
Views: 2829

for what it's worth, here's a pic:


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while waiting on the paper to "clear", I dug through the shop owner's boxes of used holsters and found the IWB Don Hume for 15 bucks. Even though it was made for compact 1911 (my Kimber also fits), the PF9 fills it very nicely. I would prefer an IWB like my Galco, with the waist band/belt clip to be offset, but the Dun Hume works o.k. for now :grin:
by mr surveyor
Mon Sep 03, 2007 9:44 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Opinions on the Kel-Tec PF9
Replies: 19
Views: 2829

I had my order in at three different shops from the time the PF9 release was announced until May when one became available. I did not want to risk the potentially long wait for a HC model, so I jumped on the first blued model that came available. I also knew to watch for serial numbers over the first 1000 "early release" guns.

Having owned 5 different kT's over the years, including a P11 pistol and Sub 2000 rifle (both traded for other KT's), and currently a P32 (for the wife), a P3AT, and PF9, I am very familiar with KT products, service department and functionality. Out of the five, the P3AT was the only one I had any issues with. I wanted that one to work so much that I insisted on keeping it moving back and forth to Cocoa, FL, until it did. As much as I like my Kimber Stainless Compact, I have to admit that I have fewer problems with my P3AT. It serves a real purpose in concealability as there are few pockets it won't fit in to. The PF9 is obviously a larger platform as far as pocketability, although not a whole lot larger. At only 11.8 ounces it carries well in a sport coat, vest pocket or larger pants pocket. The thin profile makes IWB very comfortable. The sights are very similar to standard iron sights found on most guns, with painted white dots, and easily adjustable for windage. Elevation can be adjusted by adding shims, although I have no experience with that aspect. The new package only comes with a single magazine, but both the flat base plate and the pinkie rest base plate are included. The trigger is DA only and about 7-8 pounds (mine, and I have not guaged it since break-in), and long, but smooth with a crisp break. For a light weight self defense pistol I have had no problem with controlability or recoil related problems, but I don't take it to the range to shoot more than 20-30 rounds at a time. I have a lot more guns available for range/target shooting that are more suited to that purpose. As for accuracy, the little gun can be amazingly accurate given a strong wrist and grip. I have benched and sandbagged and easily shot 2 inch groups at 7 yards. Standing, off hand, 4-6 inch groups are more the norm for me. I have found the gun totally reliable two handed, strong hand only and weak hand only. I have shot Magtech, Winchester, Remington, Aguilla, and a few other brass cased rounds, as well as CCI aluminum, with absolutely no ammunition related problems. I have not, and will not shoot commie steel cased ammo in anything but a commie gun, so I have not tried wolf, monarch or silver bear in my PF9.

One of my best friends ended up with a HC model in July, and it is very nice looking, and like mine is 100% reliable so far. The HC would by far be the best for IWB carry, but I will not complain about being "stuck" with plain old blue. :cool:

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