TAM:
Regarding my source for Bachman's law school advocating that the Bible should supercede the Constitition?
This was discused in the New Yorker article. That reporter had personal interviews with Bachman and travelled
with her entourage.
I know that you want to dismiss the above 2 articles, but they contain kernels of knowledge into her thought process,
and hence give the voters who dig a chance to see where she may go. It seems to me that you may not have read the
articles since you have given them the 527 label.
Is Faux News to be trusted after one of their top execs admitted to starting the "Obama is a Muslim" rumor?
Someone discussed Kennedy's Catholicism and how stories were woven about his alleged subservience to the Pope, if elected.
But Kennedy did not trumpet his faith beliefs. Where Ms. Bachman differs is that she claims her faith is the driving force in
her life.
I think part of the core problem that we have with any news media today is that everyone has an agenda and we have had
outright lies from some sources, and endless spin from everyone.
Speaking of spin, did you notice that Ron Paul was a strong 2nd to Bachman, but was ignored in the commentary that says
the Big 3 are now Mitt Romney, Bachman, and Rick Perry?
SIA
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- Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:17 am
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- Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:00 pm
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Re: Michelle Bachman's background: 2 magazine articles.
TAM:
You have miscontrued my comments regarding Ms. Bachman.
I don't condemn her for holding strong Christian beliefs. I was trying to shine some light on where
those strong Christian beliefs may take her should she attain the Presidency.
Her law school career stressed that the Bible should be guiding the United States, not necessarily the
US Constitution. Where the US Constitution is "wrong" vs. the Bible, those law students should strive
to change it.
When a President is sworn in, they take an oath to uphold the Constitution. If Ms. Bachman takes that
oath, will she only uphold the parts that agree with her view of the Bible?
If she feels that she should change those parts ot the Constitution with which she disagrees, based on her
Bible view, what would be the outlook for passing any legislation that is not related to changing the Constitution?
SIA
You have miscontrued my comments regarding Ms. Bachman.
I don't condemn her for holding strong Christian beliefs. I was trying to shine some light on where
those strong Christian beliefs may take her should she attain the Presidency.
Her law school career stressed that the Bible should be guiding the United States, not necessarily the
US Constitution. Where the US Constitution is "wrong" vs. the Bible, those law students should strive
to change it.
When a President is sworn in, they take an oath to uphold the Constitution. If Ms. Bachman takes that
oath, will she only uphold the parts that agree with her view of the Bible?
If she feels that she should change those parts ot the Constitution with which she disagrees, based on her
Bible view, what would be the outlook for passing any legislation that is not related to changing the Constitution?
SIA
- Fri Aug 12, 2011 12:26 pm
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Re: Michelle Bachman's background: 2 magazine articles.
Bachman's negatives are not completely woven out of whole cloth by the evil leftist media.
Her own quotes, gaffes, ignorance about history, and stated philosophies are her problem.
Just as those who voted for Obama projected all their hopes upon him, certain citizens project upon Bachman their
hopes for what she would do.
Obama's style is to let the Congress fight it out, without providing much direction.
All other issues aside, Bachman would appear to be in Obama's mold - lots of charisma and applause points for her base,
but effective legislating/governing would not necessarily be part of the outcome.
SIA
Her own quotes, gaffes, ignorance about history, and stated philosophies are her problem.
Just as those who voted for Obama projected all their hopes upon him, certain citizens project upon Bachman their
hopes for what she would do.
Obama's style is to let the Congress fight it out, without providing much direction.
All other issues aside, Bachman would appear to be in Obama's mold - lots of charisma and applause points for her base,
but effective legislating/governing would not necessarily be part of the outcome.
SIA
- Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:58 pm
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Re: Michelle Bachman's background: 4 page article.
TAM:
"527 media" - Define please.
I might have understood "420 media". :-)
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011 ... ntPage=all
The above link is a 10 page article (you can set it to "single page view" for easier reading) from The New Yorker.
It's by a different author, Ryan Lizza, than the Rolling Stone article.
Maybe you don't like either of the articles for which I have posted links, but both give a wealth of detail on
her background and thought processes. The New Yorker piece details her Christian heros, and some of the
controversial opinions they hold.
If she ever got the Republican nomination, I think she'd commit some major gaffe during the election process, IMHO.
Christian belief is a great force, but I believe that she would set up the US as more of a theocracy than a republic.
SIA
"527 media" - Define please.
I might have understood "420 media". :-)
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011 ... ntPage=all
The above link is a 10 page article (you can set it to "single page view" for easier reading) from The New Yorker.
It's by a different author, Ryan Lizza, than the Rolling Stone article.
Maybe you don't like either of the articles for which I have posted links, but both give a wealth of detail on
her background and thought processes. The New Yorker piece details her Christian heros, and some of the
controversial opinions they hold.
If she ever got the Republican nomination, I think she'd commit some major gaffe during the election process, IMHO.
Christian belief is a great force, but I believe that she would set up the US as more of a theocracy than a republic.
SIA
- Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:30 pm
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Michelle Bachman's background: 2 magazine articles.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/ne ... r-20110622
The above link is to a story in Rolling Stone Magazine, and is authored by Matt Taibbi. He takes somewhat of
a scolding tone about her life story and political ambitions, but reading this piece would be helpful to understand
her in more detail than can be found in a sound bite on the news.
Although not covered in this article, she has been documented to play fast and loose with the facts, and will
not concede that she's wrong.
Her family emigrated to this country from <Sweden, Norway, somewhere around there> and most of their initial
American homes and formative experiences took place in Wisconsin and South Dakota. It's true that Bachman
lived in Iowa from about birth to age 12, but since she wants to impress Iowa voters, she has claimed that a lot
of her family's story actually occurred in Iowa.
Her website used to have a list of "must read" books. One of them was a biography of Robert E. Lee, author I can't
remember. This man's book stated that since slaveholders and slaves both shared Christianity, that they had a nice
family relationship going on. Then those Godless Yankees broke up their cozy family life.
Although she rails against those who rely on government largesse, she and her family have probably made a majority
of their income from state and federal sources. She worked for the IRS for 4 years. She's been a state legislator and
now is a US rep. Her husband's family has received large amounts of federal checks for their Wisconsin farm. Her husband
runs a counselling clinic which receives money from federal programs. By the way, he tries to "pray out" the gay from
gay patients.
She doesn't have much of a track record as far as getting any legislation passed.
She took money from the State of Minnesota to start a charter school. Since it was "state money", she was supposed to
keep the school secular. Instead her school started teaching creationism, and didn't allow the kids to see the movie
"Aladdin" since it had magic in it. The State of Minnesota confronted her about the religious school she was running
with state money.
She considers that the Bible is the true guiding document of the land, and that the Constitution may be ignored when
she considers it to be out of sync with the Bible.
Someone on another forum mentioned about Bachman being a "squirrel". I heartily agree. The more I hear about her,
the more fringe she appears.
I know she appeals to some folks out there since they see her as a Tea Party patriot, but when you look under the hood,
things aren't so appealing.
SIA
The above link is to a story in Rolling Stone Magazine, and is authored by Matt Taibbi. He takes somewhat of
a scolding tone about her life story and political ambitions, but reading this piece would be helpful to understand
her in more detail than can be found in a sound bite on the news.
Although not covered in this article, she has been documented to play fast and loose with the facts, and will
not concede that she's wrong.
Her family emigrated to this country from <Sweden, Norway, somewhere around there> and most of their initial
American homes and formative experiences took place in Wisconsin and South Dakota. It's true that Bachman
lived in Iowa from about birth to age 12, but since she wants to impress Iowa voters, she has claimed that a lot
of her family's story actually occurred in Iowa.
Her website used to have a list of "must read" books. One of them was a biography of Robert E. Lee, author I can't
remember. This man's book stated that since slaveholders and slaves both shared Christianity, that they had a nice
family relationship going on. Then those Godless Yankees broke up their cozy family life.
Although she rails against those who rely on government largesse, she and her family have probably made a majority
of their income from state and federal sources. She worked for the IRS for 4 years. She's been a state legislator and
now is a US rep. Her husband's family has received large amounts of federal checks for their Wisconsin farm. Her husband
runs a counselling clinic which receives money from federal programs. By the way, he tries to "pray out" the gay from
gay patients.
She doesn't have much of a track record as far as getting any legislation passed.
She took money from the State of Minnesota to start a charter school. Since it was "state money", she was supposed to
keep the school secular. Instead her school started teaching creationism, and didn't allow the kids to see the movie
"Aladdin" since it had magic in it. The State of Minnesota confronted her about the religious school she was running
with state money.
She considers that the Bible is the true guiding document of the land, and that the Constitution may be ignored when
she considers it to be out of sync with the Bible.
Someone on another forum mentioned about Bachman being a "squirrel". I heartily agree. The more I hear about her,
the more fringe she appears.
I know she appeals to some folks out there since they see her as a Tea Party patriot, but when you look under the hood,
things aren't so appealing.
SIA